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June 1- 2008
Hello I want to tell to a person who is
from Tabasco, I went to an office in Tijuana that is requesting for
workers to go to Canada, but I am trying to find out if it is legal. If
so, I’ll send you the phone number. If you care for support, you already
have inn in this city. Greetings for Tabasco. I read all your comments
and experiences, the truth hurts but we are going forward, Latinos we
are strong to withstand all these abuses. I'd like to ask to the woman
who has a son; how did it go, to enroll his son in the educational
system in Canada?
Thanks and Regards
Archi. Tijuana, Mexico.
June 1- 2008
Reading all of the comments on this post at least make me realize
that I am not the only one who is pretty much a slave here in Canada. I
have been looking for a job here for almost 3 years now (in June it will
be 3 years). I have only been able to find work as a labourer in drill
pipe manufacturing factory and at Dell call center which closed in
April. My plan was to get the training at Dell and then leave, I ended
up staying form 16 months till the center closed.
I have a degree in mechanical engineering from Los Angeles, California
and I got it back in June 2005. Since then, I have not been able to find
employment with which I can support myself. I have applied to countless
positions (as you can imagine), made cold calls and dropped by 100s
companies to drop off my resume but to no avail. Same is the situation
with my brother.
If someone comes from overseas, they are told that they don’t have the
right experience or training even though their experience is far more
what any degree can provide. In all of Canada especially Alberta, there
are jobs here in engineering and other fields but not for the
immigrants. Where my brother works (Jacobs engineering) as a drafter or
an assistant, he mentioned that after he was hired, at least 4-5 new
grads or engineers on training were hired as well without any
consideration given to him even though he has a degree in engineering.
The immigrants are told to come here and work on the kind of jobs that
the people here and the government here wants them to do. For example if
you are an Indian, you are expected to work in a call center no matter
what you qualifications or experience. Same is true for other groups. So
my advice to those who are thinking of coming here based on the lies
they have been told, don’t waste your life and money. I would love to
get out of here right now but since I have spent this much time, I
should wait for my citizenship. I am thinking of gong to the Middle East
and they seem to have a preference for western passports.
Regards
Syed. Alberta, Canada.
June 1- 2008
Good day. I am a black man born in Montreal, Canada. My parents are from
Nigeria, Africa. I moved from Toronto last year, after a divorce and
have been looking for employment as a Software developer. I do well in
interviews but always told that they feel that I am over qualified for
the positions (some paying up to $65,000). I have a BSc in Electrical
Engineering (University of Miami), Oracle Certified Professional
Application Developer and was a Supervisor/Sr IT Analyst for the City Of
Toronto. As a hubby, I won the silver medal in the Canadian National
boxing Championships in 1997. I am an extremely hard worker , speak the
English language quite well (did my high schooling in Manchester,
England), a team player and don't see a reason why I can't find
employment here in Calgary. I have even written the Mayor about this.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Cris. Calgary, Canada.
June 2- 2008
Hi
I would like to ask if someone know what is to seek help from
the immigration offices and organizations looks like.
Are they useful? Understand new immigrants needs? Are they willing/capable
to help? Are their help effective? They are supposed to help immigrants
as it is claimed. Aren't they?
Thank you
Reuven L. Argentina/Israel.
June 5- 2008
Hello, receive all you guys a respectful greeting, I really would like
an opportunity to work I am Mexican but now I find myself in the
province of Quebec and is hard here because of all the employment
agencies hire and fire you when they want, Often they doesn't pay you
and I'm very distressed. I Hope can answer this message.
Juan. Agronomist Engineer. Quebec, Canada.
June 5- 2008
To Reuven L,
Yes, in general they'll help.
The Question is his effectiveness.
That depends on what kind of help you seek.
If you are looking for help like how to find a place to live.. apply for
healthcards.. driving license...whatever you need for initial settlement
then they are very effective. They may help you in preparing a resume,
basic job searching tips.
However, if you look for job searching assistance then they can do
nothing but to give you some usual guidelines ...tips..
Sha. Orlando, USA.
June 7- 2008
I feel very frustrated that companies in Calgary do not give a chance or
an interview, I speak fluently advanced English, I have a wide
experience in customer service and 5 years in recruitment, but it has
been difficult to even get a phone call all the jobs I get a call are
retail pay jobs of 9-12 the hour which is not suitable for my experience
and background.
I am hoping in my heart that someone will give me a chance to work here
in my area.
Betty. HR/Secretary from Dominican Republic in Calgary, Canada.
June 7- 2008
I must to know how to do to verify that a Recruiting Agency is legal,
for example this company /cirsjobs.ca is a legal company, that I should
ask you for the owner to make me sure that it is a legal company, I want
to know this to be able to determine if I'll apply or not with this
company to work at Canada.
Erick E. Santiago, Dominican Republic.
June 8- 2008
First of all, thank you for your interest in this, in my point of view
is nothing but discrimination in Vancouver
We left the apartment on June 5, 2008 in order to arrive at a liaison
office of the Consulate of Colombia to resolve some doubts about the
visa.
I am Mexican and my friend Colombian, but we did not know how to get
there, we only knew the address was in Surrey, 24th av. and the number
suite 202. Then we take the necessary means to get there as bus and sky
train as soon as we arrived we found out where was that office.
Having completed what we had come to do at the office, we wonder:-And
now what we do? We decided at the moment to go eating and starting at 7
eleven we had seen where left us the bus, buy food and remain seated
again we thought what we would do, because we had much free time. we
think that we were very close to the border and how good it would go and
take some pictures to show to our friends and relatives. We never
thought cross the border into USA. We research on how to get to the
border and the only way was to go by taxi from White Rock.
But we did too slow to ask the taxi, then we went to a shop at a gas
station in which the person attend that business provide us your phone.
The taxi arrive finally and we depart. We go down in a Duty Free, we
said good, we are here. Now to where? , Then we entered to the Duty
Free, I wanted to go the bathroom and my friend to buy something, but
our surprise an employee stop us and ask us for our nationality and
destination. We responded normally to questions and then the employee
asks: -what you will buy? Because you can only use our cafeteria. We
knew we could buy at that site because we are foreigners, but good, was
not so important, so get out of that store and we began to take pictures
next to Duty Free to a very nice park. We walked a little more and in
the distance saw a monument with flags. We wanted to get closer to take
pictures but we think it would be better cross the street and ask to
avoid problems. We arrived at police offices of the border and we sat on
a bench at the side thinking about whom we could ask about the pictures
that we wanted to take.
At that time we saw that there was an official inspecting a van in the
parking lot. I told my friend to ask the officer, because I do not speak
much English. He gone, approached and asked if they could take pictures
there. The officer who was at that time only replied that no, and ask
for show our documents. My friend told clearly -I am a student and
taught him the passport. I don’t have it with me because it was raining
and it could dampen. The police officer did not give me the opportunity
to explain when they told us that accompanies him inside the office.
Already inside, they began to interrogate us about what we were doing in
this country and how and where we had known my friend and I. Then we
pass with another officer which interrogated us a second time and
requested me to tell the exact day on which leave the country. I am just
a tourist and did not know that answer. In addition I have enjoyed a
long stay in this beautiful city and I want to be a while or at least up
until my friend has finished his studies at the end of July 2008. At
moments they were lifted from their place and talked with other
officials, until another officer interrogated me for the third time and
asks me exact date in which I will return to Mexico. My friend was not
at that time because it was trying to call someone to bring me the
passport.
I did not speak English well and tried to tell to the officer that I
wouldn’t be able to understand him. Then ask for the whereabouts of my
friend and I told him that he was out trying to talk to someone over the
phone.
The officer left the office and he scream to my friend to come. Then my
friend approach towards us but the officer with tone despot told that he
was much closer, keep the distance. The fact is that the officer
insisted on me with that question when I leave the country, namely exact
date and told him that I don’t know when exactly, that I might be ten
days more and said "ok come with me" and he came to the desk where he
began to write countless things on the computer, I didn’t know what is
it about until suddenly he delivered a piece paper to me in which gave
me a deadline to leave the country until June 15 and no more.
Most of this was recorded because we were surrounded by cameras and we
have witnesses as those of the shops where we ask how to get to the
border and they can attest that we never did anything.
We would like to considered this writing (so I would like even to see
more of Canada) and is not fair that they kick me out of their country
in that way, just for ask if we could take a picture. I arrive on April
25
Oscar S. Mexico.
June 11- 2008
Hello!
It's amazing the level of discrimination that you face every day in this
city (Montreal). Upon arriving here, just a week my husband took me to
hospital for emergency since I suffered from a tremendous pain, what I
faced was like a horror film, I had to wait 4 hours before attend me,
after finally that I get reviewed very superficially for a nurse, she
command me to go home, I was still much worse and my husband came into
an oversight (with me in a wheelchair) and he took me to the doctor's
office, the doctor saw me so bad that he send me to do control studies
and I no longer left the hospital, I stayed in emergency two days in a
stretcher, doctors and nurses speaking out loud with strong and blinding
lights. until the third day my husband could get a room (shared) and was
there for 6 days without food because they did not know until when get
clear the operating room, on the seventh day I get operated after on
that night the nurse doesn’t attended me because I didn’t know speak
French, doesn’t give me the patient's gown, I stayed wet all night and
without food, until my husband came and helped me, also led me some
food, the visit was just a few minutes but as help it was taking so
long, security take him out.
Then, when I could walk I went with the social worker, who migration
appointed me I just started to discuss what happened to me, when tells
me.... "No, in Canada there is no discrimination" and that was the end
of my complaint. Right now I return from do some shopping at jewelry, I
wanted to respond in English, and the sir told me it that was only for
people who speak French because he was the French......... I speak
English as my second language, and I think it is a commercial language,
there are people here from all over the world and obviously does not
expect one clerk or owner of the store X speak any language but yes the
English language. I could see that Canada is a country much more racist
than USA I do not mean the government (gringo), but the people, to
people on the streets, shops, schools, etc.
I have lived in various parts of the United States and I never went
something like this, never suffered any discrimination. Canada has an
address in a foreign country tolerant, democratic, multicultural, but
that is just a hook for people to come and all you care about them is
manpower, there is a mafia between employers and government, enter
without a visa, ask for shelter, you get social aid, about $ 500 per
person, this lets you pay your department and eat poorly. You look
forced to work so you can achieve the cost but if you Report More than
200 dollars, they will withdraw support, and the most of jobs are
temporary, and already a few days you begin searching for another agency
(including that are advertised in newspapers) and looking for another
job, obviously is not as stated and they pay you in cash payments, which
is much lower, well then you stay here for three to four years or more,
they will reject your request for residence and send you to your
country.
The truth if you have many illusions or think you come here to make your
dream "Canadian" better think twice, it is much harder than it
looks.........
Good luck to all those who are stuck in here!
Natalia. Montreal, Canada.
June 19- 2008
Hello,
I am not an immigrant, yet. But I want to work in Canada and after I
will find for myself something useful (helpful) and I will file for a
permanent resident status. In other words, before I will decide if I want
to live in Canada I must find a job and live in your Country for a
while.
Please anybody who can help me with information how to find an
employer/job?
My main occupation is on site construction supervisor, but I can work as
a bricklayer, carpenter or a welder. And I speak, read and write in
English with almost no problem.
I Just need an employer who will be willing to hire me and in the same
time will support my working visa application with arrange employment
confirmation.
Thank you in advance for your co-operation.
Sergej. Krasnodar, Russia.
June 19- 2008
Hello immigrants, special greeting to all Colombians living in Brandon
Manitoba. I congratulate them for the step that they gave so strong.
Let’s go guys, we are with all you. Do not forget to Colombia, beautiful
and buoyant country. Let’s go Colombians!
Melida. Bogota, Colombia.
June 22- 2008
My application to Canada is under process
and likely to be through in next 30 days ,hence in order to proceed
ahead I have started applying for jobs, I understand that it takes a
long time in finding jobs in Canada and unless you land up in CA it is
difficult to get a job. Hence with this website I am trying to build a
network, so by the time I land up in Canada I will have less time to
struggle, As I am confident about My qualification and experience with
international firms in my field gained so far I am at Par as compared to
my counterparts who hail from international consulting agencies from USA
and UK. So In my opinion it should not take me more time to get
acquainted with Canadian main stream professionals, rules bye laws
building codes etc.
My suggestion is if you accept such prospective employees it will be of
a great help for them to settle faster in the mainstream and provide
them an opportunity to contribute to the growth of Canada immediately
starting too. Not only this it will also help reduce the govt's budget
on providing social security, medical help etc. to immigrants as
employers may take care of that. I am not very sure about this but there
must be some policy regarding this.
There is much more that I can suggest but I think this is it for today.
Thanks for providing a platform to express me and many more alike that
may get benefited by this initiative of yours.
With Kind Regards
Sudhir. India.
June 22- 2008
To Sudhir.
Good to see your positive attitude. Though don't
think that you are alone doing such things. All immigrants follow the
same steps. Remember that you worked for US or UK companies from India
or elsewhere doesn't mean anything to them. I saw many guys with IT
degrees even from the USA working in computer assembling plants.
But it is true that, the only magic is if you can manage personally
someone who can directly land you a job. This is a part of Canadian
culture, called "networking" and in simple sense it is nothing but
nepotism. Why is this? Canada doesn't have enough professional
opportunities even to offer their own graduates. Then think about the
immigrants with foreign credentials.
Study hear more before finally coming and have a back up plan ready.
Sha. Orlando, USA.
June 25- 2008
I am here in Canada for more than 2 Years and I am waiting for my
nomination from my employer this year and hopefully to get my immigrant
visa next year. But as of now I was informed by our government
"Philippines" that my wife filed a case against me, a case which
involves a relationship with other women, I would like to inquire if my
immigrant visa will be affected because of this case ..
Thank you and more power.
Jhon. Alberta, Canada.
June 25- 2008
To Reuven,
It would be a big mistake to come here. My parents are from Israel, and
not a day goes by where they don't regret coming to this country, and we
have been here for more than thirty years.
Stay in Israel.
Moishe.
June 26- 2008
As a first generation of immigrant to our great Canadian Nation, I have
no choice but to commend your efforts in providing this excellent
service for the ambitiously goaded immigrants who espouse progress
beyond their national boundaries.
Thank you and more grease to your elbow.
Olaniyi. Canada.
June 26- 2008
I’m from Palestine but I live right
know in Florida/USA. I have a work visa permanent immigration from USA
but I try to visit Canada with my wife for vacation just two week. And I
need to know if I need another visa or no and if I need visa what I
supposed to do to get the visa to Canada.
Thank you.
Mahmoud. USA.
June 26- 2008
To Jhon
I don’t think your work visa will
be affected since you have already submitted your documents to
Government CIC.
Although once filed in the Philippines and approved by the Prosecutors,
you will have a warrant of arrest issued and you will not be eligible to
return to the Philippines.
David, a lawyer from the Philippines and a prospective immigrant to
Canada.
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May 3- 2008
I would like to ask about what is happening with the forum as
usually you published one message every day and since april 12 you just
have one message. It is there any goverment interference with this
forum?
Regards,
Richard. Canada
May 7- 2008
I've been waiting 5 years for the people of immigration give me
the permanent residence. We have gone through all of (thanks to that I
am married since more than 8 years with a Canadian, so I have been
applying into Canada) Now I live in Alberta, but the last thing that
this country needs are skilled immigrants. They want cheap labour,
nothing else. Now up to the age, the first digit SIN # (to see if you
are on work permit) or outright tell one that does not hire people in
this status of work permit (Safeway Edmonton, American Income life). I
think we should start a movement, all that skilled immigrants who are
here to assert our rights. It can't be possible, if I leave the country,
after I been 5 years here, applies that I'll lose all my rights in
Canada. If you ever thought someone in Canada to emigrate for a better
life, you better go to the U.S., here the immigration service is so
inefficient that it is just like hell.
We should all do something to assert our rights, instead of waiting for
years to these "gentlemen" figure out what they have to do.
If you want us to organize, I am the first candidate, is so stupid. And
one called to tell immigration and it takes 16 months to process an
application!!
So, I do not understand because 5 years and still have nothing. I had to
suffer in Canada the worst humiliations in my life, I bite the tongue
before you say what I think, because I am sure that if I put it on the
news, these sons of a b*#* will deport me in minutes.
Count on me, please help us to end this lie that they need skilled
immigrants, are just crap. What they need are pawns they work under the
minimum wage and without opening his mouth.
If I had known 5 years ago that this was just hell, in my life had come
to Canada!!
Thanks for listen.
Vivian. Alberta, Canada.
May 7- 2008
As a patient here in GF Strong may I request
to your good office all the forms and requirements to sponsor my nephew
and his wife to come here to help me and assist me of my daily errand as
a home support cause he is a graduate nurse likewise his wife -I also
believe it is cheaper for the provincial govt. to send a home support
nanny than my request to your good office -If its not too much of asking
to your good office.
To grant me this request& at the momentum only
defending on my disability pension/however my sister is behind me when
it comes to monetary funds
Emiliano V. Vancouver, Canada.
May 10- 2008
One thing is for sure after reading a lot this
forum: Canada isn't for "skilled professional with a lot of degrees
looking for offices multinationals companies"! But, how about other
workers like Pastry Chefs? A pastry chef with a Canada degree must get a
jobs 30-60k , doesn't?
Or what about opening a business in Canada? Is that
possible? I didn't see anyone asking about this. Everyone is looking for
jobs, but what about investing in Canada? Is Canada a good country for
entrepreneurs?
I like my country, I have a good life here, but I
always wanted to get out. My father is US citizen and I'm on the
looooong wait for my US family GC. Now I'm thinking maybe Canada it's a
short way or a plan B while I'm waiting for US. Of course everything I
read here changed a lot the idea I had of Canada. But I think that
doesn't change my plans to immigrate there. If I do, I'll try my best to
blend to the Canadian culture, study and get a degree there, try to lost
the accent, learn French and get the citizenship. But I would
never do that without money. I mean, I wouldn’t immigrate depending only
with the money earned working there. And I would not try to find a job
because there isn't a good one there. I would try opening a business, a
restaurant or something that I already know how to be successful. I know
I can get good ideas and nothing better than have your own business.
What do you think about this? you think I'm crazy? You have to be
millionaire to open a small business in Canada? Bottom line: I'll
immigrate to Canada, I'm pretty sure, but just because I have a backup
money (60K year) from my business at my home country to support me. No
way I would leave my comfortable house, new car etc to a place that you
will live at poverty line. I want to leave because here there is too
much crime and it will pass 20 years or more to my country become a good
one. My family is from US, and even that I lived in Brazil my entire
life I feel that I don't belong here. Please tell me what you think
about my plans!!
Newton W. Brazil.
May 10- 2008
In my personal opinion, I believe that in Canada there is a lot of
racial and labour discrimination for Latin people. And I say this;
because a Latino who wants to go to work in this country would has many
obstacles to get a visa, so as not to allow their entry. There are a lot
of people, Latino workers, people who certainly can support for a
country is prosperous in their development. And I think that is not the
right way to the bureaucracy impose its rules selfish and nefarious. I
am a Latino, and from the Peruvians plain fields I ask to politicians to
legislate to Canadians in the field of migration and for the good image
of their country.
Segundo D. Lambayeque, Peru.
May 10- 2008
Newton,
As an entrepreneur in Montreal, I can give you some insights about the
life of a small business man. Canada is extremely expensive to do
business since you cannot find people for less than 10 dollars an hour.
On top of that, 50% of your income goes to the government; let's add to
that business licenses and occupation taxes. The cheapest accountant
would charge you about 100 dollars a month.
This would be ok if the market was strong enough but the reality this is
a country where most people are middle class so that means that most
people will have very little money to spend after paying rent, food, gas
and taxes. You should also take into consideration that every immigrant
that comes to this country will try to open a business after realizing
that they cannot find a job so the competition is extremely high for
small business.
Most people that I know with small businesses make less money that they
would make working for a company and working long hours. A friend
from Mexico, after realizing that he was not going to be able to get a
job in engineering, opened a corner store and after few years is making
about 50K a year but this is working weekends and having his family to
help him. An average engineering job would pay him 60K so he is working
double for less plus he has no benefits and no employment insurance. As
self employed, you have no right to employment insurance.
Successful people in business have developed networks for business and
barriers of entry. Italians for example dominate the construction
industry and control most of the unions so it is next to impossible to
open a construction business since you will be blocked due to the
unions. The Jewish community controls most of the financial and real
estate business so if you would like to get into that, you better marry
a woman that is part of the community.
What is the best in Canada? The best is to land a job with the
government. Government jobs have benefits, job security and salary
scales according to education. You would never get the same salary with
a small business in Canada. However, it is not easy to land a job in the
government due to unions since they always hire internally unless there
is nobody willing to do the job (And this is next to impossible). You
have some government openings as a bus drivers or garbage collection but
not so easy to get those even.
Not trying to be pessimistic but give you the reality. If you have
money, you better off investing in Latin America. My brother went to
Mexico and is doing well since the market is huge and labor is cheap. No
unions or high taxes to pay. My brother in law decided to try luck over
there and is doing ok.
Hope this helps,
Raul. Montreal, Canada.
May 12- 2008
I see realism in your writings. In our country there is a new consulting
company on migration to Canada, called CIIB Canada. Could you tell me if
that organization is actually Canadian and if is a reliable business?
Estela M. Quetzaltenango,
Guatemala.
May 13- 2008
Estela,
Real immigration consultants are members of the Canadian association of
immigration consultants
http://www.csic-scci.ca/index.htm. If you are going to hire a
consultant, make sure that is member of this association. The government
can only deal with members of this association so anyone else is bogus
and should be avoided.
Consultants can be useful to assess you situation and provide you with a
strategy. They can follow up with the government and act in your behalf.
As for CIIB Canada, ask them for their membership ID and check on the
immigrations consultant website to verify this.
Raul. Montreal, Canada.
May 14- 2008
Hello good day, first of all, thank you very much for this space that
you have given for my next request;
I was working in Canada in Edmonton for McDonalds and I would once again
have the opportunity to go to work in Canada, because in my country is
too difficult to get a good job, despite having a Career, and Title
Professional Certificates and the time that I was working in Edmonton in
Alberta, I realized that everyone is equal and I didn't find elitism in
that sense, no matter which one is a woman, the truth I don’t know if
you can support me to return and have a job.
I want to thanks to you very much for having a space where there is
people who help us and hear us ....
Thank you so much ...
Sandra. Mexico.
May 14- 2008
I am Assist Architect from a small town in
India. I have 7 years of experience in my job and I have completed 3
years diploma after completed 12th grade.
I have decided apply for Canadian immigration under Economic federal
skilled class. I have got all the forms from the website on my own and
will be applying independently. The only problem I have is regarding the
work experience letter. I have been told by people that immigration
department has a specific division or branch for this and we should
write it according to that only.
I couldn't find that division anywhere so could any of you guys help me
with it.
Does it exist? If so where can I find it or should I make it according
to myself.
I will appreciate your help in this regard.
Thank you.
Sanjeev. Ferozepur, India.
May 15- 2008
I was in contracts for 6 months and just ended; now I've just moved
to Toronto in search for a better future. I’m on a extremely bad
financial situation, so no leads me anywhere and I am surviving on the
kindness of friends, I am no longer in the social services system,
because I don't fit into any category. Despite being an active tax payer
since 2000 and I only recently unemployed, I want someone who helped me
move in a right direction that I might go for basic needs like food,
shelter, medical care and foremost an opportunity to work here in
Toronto.
M. Hanafiah. Art Director from Singapore living in Toronto.
May 15- 2008
Newton,
What Raul said about starting a new business is 100% correct.
Don't think that you are the only one who thought about it; there are
many who tried. BUT, very few could last long finally.
Reasons are the same Raul mentioned. 90% of the lucky ones who
could get success have to do business targeting their own community.
Like; open an Indian grocery in an Indian majority area in Toronto; or
Travel agency...As you can easily imagine those fields are also filled
long back.
Why do you think business can be the key of success?
If business were so easy then you wouldn't hear so many complain about
the poor job market. Apply your common sense. Over all
Canadian environments is not favorable for any financial activities.
That's why most of the big Canadian investors prefer to invest in US
rather than investing in Canada. No wonder job market is always
very poor in Canada.
Raul is 100% correct also in saying the Govt. jobs.
Yes, if you can manage a Govt. job in Canada then you can find the
heaven on the earth. They enjoy super excellent benefits...relax
work. BUT, those jobs are only for themselves! Yes, you'll
get advertisements in the newspaper… Websites... Those are all to wash
their hands from allegations. Otherwise how would they say that
they are democratic… equal opportunity employer. Everybody knows
the truth, if you aren't internally strongly referred then your
application will be placed in the trash cans. I was also too naive
once and wasted my time and resources for the golden deer.
This reference is the key to success in Canada; doing
business or getting a job. Other than that no matter how hard you
working, or how qualified you are, your life will remain in the dead end
menial jobs.
Just wait for some years more and go to the USA.
Don't consider Canada as the Plan B unless you have illness that
prevents you from working.
Shah. Orlando, USA.
May 16- 2008
Hello Canada Immigration, I am an international student. I
got my work permit three weeks ago, but I have a question about one of
the conditions(--not allowed to work in health services) stated on the
permit. Does it mean that I can't be employed as an administrative
assistant in a doctor's office, or be a research assistant (for
students) in a laboratory or hospital?
Nelson I. Toronto, Canada.
May 16- 2008
I came to Canada as a refugee in 1999,
September 11. Since then I am struggling for a better living moving from
one job to another, I never liked my job, and I always hoping for
something better. I always wanted to work for the government as an
interpreter or in public-relations, with my background in languages I
can be an asset for "Canada immigration". I am fluent in English,
French, and Arabic. I very good in conversational Chinese mandarin. I
hope someday I’ll achieve my goal and become a government employee.
Hassene C. Calgary, Canada.
May 16- 2008
Most of the recruiting agencies in Canada do not have any
knowledge of the qualifications and skills of foreign trained
professionals, therefore the system of hiring workers through profit
oriented recruiters must be modified or regulated
Wilfred W. Toronto, Canada.
May 20- 2008
I need that you give me addresses or names of companies that you could
know in Mexico that recruit to work in Canada, it urges me, please
answer me, I'll be in touch, I'll be grateful.
Modesto B. Veracruz, Mexico.
May 20- 2008
Hello! I would like that you send me information about how to go to work
in Canada but that there is possibility that a company hires me from my
country and if they give me training and procedures are needed for this
purpose.
One more doubt Is there need it a visa or just passport?.
For the moment that’s everything and I hope your reply.
See you later.
Gerardo L. Tabasco, Mexico.
May 22- 2008
Hello!
I am a young student in project management.
Two years ago that I'm looking for a way to go to work in Canada, but I
can't find a way to.
I do not know anybody here and at my home country there is no Canadian
Embassy in there, and where I live now is very difficult to achieve
because there are a lots hindrance.
I need someone who can help me or any suggestions for access to Canada.
Thank you very much!
Pedro A. Dakar, Senegal.
May 24- 2008
Hello, my name is Mirtha and I came from the Caribbean to Canada in
mid-2007 alone with my child in a independent immigration program, full
of dreams and illusions fuelled by the propaganda of high standard of
living in this country, and believing that the difficult process of
selection and high price of everything the process would be considered
at my arrival. I am Engineer for over 20 years with technical and
commercial work experience, plus I have devoted much of my life studying
various languages for me and my professional grows.
From the beginning approaching to my reassessment for taking advantage
of "caring opportunities" aid offered by the Canadian government to
immigrants like me who want to reintegrate into their labour markets and
start a course at an academy.
Since my arrival I have been subjected to countless job interviews that
just left me full of stress and a "we call you back" than never arrive.
First, pass a job interview is an entire college career, in fact they
made you lose a significant time in preparing yourself through several
courses for learning for a successfully interview, "then it is absurd
when that moment comes and you never get known the objectives of the
interviewer, and to work for example in a shop to folding clothes or as
technical support or have to answer questions like: to which country
would you like to travel? or when was the last time that you discussed
with a co-worker? And finally when neither you remember why you are sit
in that press conference, then someone asks you, what you know to do?
and if you can do that job?, then add it that under your standard
Canadian you don’t qualify to bend in a clothes shop "Canadian" because
they not call you back to give you the job, even when you know you're
capable of doing an analysis of high-level financial statement, build an
efficient database in Access, prepare a conference of GPRS in French
etc, etc.
Believe me that self-esteem suffers and the dreams are gradually
becoming real nightmare, and besides not find work, you realize that you
are immersed into the trap of Debts.
For almost a year since I came just get work in a shop for only 8 pesos
for hour when and where you programmed, something between 6 or 20 hours
a week, multiply and you will not reach for rent that is too high. To
survive I had to do cleaning work and live with a super tight budget,
hoping that my situation improves.
Worst of all is that my great desire to undertake some business have
disappeared, because among the concerns of bills to pay and hard work
(you pay 8 and you require as if they were paying you 25/hour) and you
cannot think clearly.
Apply for a factory to a very low level job but looking at least one of
full time that get me out of the hole but they have not called yet.
I am very disappointed of this country, but I do not think this country
should continue to fuel immigration policies for which they are not
prepared. If they need people for works hard and unpleasant, at least
should say so openly and not to seek for professionals, but look for
trades people who know and want to make this work.
Mirtha H. Toronto, Canada.
May 27- 2008
My baby was born three months ago in Vancouver, Canada. The government
already sent me the birth certificate. My wife and I have stay illegal
for more than a year ago. My baby doesn’t have care card which entitles
him to medical insurance, the government denied it because their parents
do not have social security number.
My question is; if a work permit can I stabilize my situation?
Thank you very much for your response
Horacio N. Vancouver, Canada.
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April 6- 2008
You may have good logic, though one thing you totally forgot.
That is; the other countries you referred DO NOT market or sell
themselves as immigrant paradise. Did you ever hear Jordan or any
Muslim countries inviting immigrants? Then how would you compare Jordan
and Canada? Dare to compare the immigrants in Canada and
USA/Australia. Be on the real world from the dream world.
Other countries (who are worse in your eyes) don't lure anyone with
false hope. In the scale of human rights those countries may be
inferior. All countries have the right to determine their way of life.
Let them decide their own unless they adopt any hypocritical deceiving
policy like Canada.
Here is the whole point, immigrants in Canada didn't come forcefully.
They were all lured by your Govt's super advertising to get a "better"
life in the land of paradise that is dying for professional immigrants.
What's the better life? Engineers flipping burgers or accountants
mopping floor. If you believe the least in human right then be vocal
against your own Govt.
Shah. Florida, USA.
April 6- 2008
Good day,
I would like to ask a few questions regarding education in Canada.
My husband and i are both planning on going to Canada to complete
diploma programs at colleges. Most colleges provide 2 year diploma
programs with optional co-operative work experience (between the first
and second year). We are hoping that the education and work opportunity,
will count as Canadian experience.
However none of the colleges can actually tell us, how realistic it is
to get a job off-campus. Or if you can actually get a job upon
graduation.
Does anyone have some info....please share!
Thank you...
Patricia E. Ukraine
April 7- 2008
Hi Patricia of Ukraine,
I happen to work in the education industry in Montreal. I work for a
college in computer science and a university in the business faculty. It
is hard to tell what are your chances if you don't give us your field
but I can tell you that in the computing industry are about 50% of
chances of getting a job in your field after graduation. That is right,
a lot of my students that finished diplomas in computers end working at
a grocery store or doing other menial jobs so that is why the school
cannot commit to anything.
If you don't have any contacts or Canadian experience, I would say that
your chances might be even less than 50% ( a lot less actually).
A lot of immigrants in this board complain that cannot get work with
foreign degrees but the fact is that many local graduates with local
degrees are facing the same issues. It is normal that the local industry
give more opportunities to local graduates otherwise we wouldn't have
work in the education industry.
Why government keep encouraging degree holders to immigrate?, the
answer is simple, rich candidates wouldn't come to Canada because of the
high taxes and poor candidates are not of interest to Canada since they
wouldn't bring any resources. The only possible candidates are the
middle class of other countries that have the resources and energies to
work hard for a better life. The government knows that immigrants won't
work in their fields but they can care less since they bring the money
to pay the taxes and pay their salaries. Think about, many government
employees make 60-100K with only high school diplomas and need to keep
their high paying jobs, they know that with less taxes their jobs are in
jeopardy, how they can keep these high paying jobs? By bringing the
immigrants that will pay these salaries and generate their jobs with all
the paper work that immigration generates.
In a way, immigration is not very fear to local residents since you are
bringing foreign competition that keeps bringing the salaries down. But
who cares about this if government officials don't have to deal with
local market conditions since they have job security protected by unions.
Most of us immigrants wouldn't complain about immigration since we are
immigrants ourselves, but the reality is that immigration brings
salaries down to the benefit of companies but not to the average citizen.
The whole Canadian immigration is government business, they keep their
high paying jobs by selling you a signed piece of paper. It brings work
to them with all the paper work and fees they charge. It is like a legal
mafia that charges you to be part of the Canadian territory.
I hope this helps to open your eyes. Canadian education is good but keep
your feet on the ground.
Raul. Montreal, Canada.
April 8- 2008
This is in response to Patricia E. from Ukraine.
Patricia as you can see, most of us in this forum are not very impress
with the Canadian living standard or the way we been treated. The reason
why we feel this way about Canada is because we feel used and abused in
many ways.
For one thing, we as immigrants are a big contribution to the country's
economy we all pay our duties or at least, the ones I know and we all
struggle in many different ways.
Colleges are some of the biggest beneficiaries of the immigrants in
Canada. They will present you with a nice tango and dance glorifying
their college on how good their college is, and how many graduates from
their college have gotten employment, and how much they will help you to
get a job placement when you finish your schooling. All that blah blah
is just to lure you into their college.
Ones you
have paid your school fees to them, and you have filled up more their
bank account, you become a nuisance to them if you start asking
questions or asking them for help later on.
However, if you have the strongest will, the courage to go and face or
even beg every possible employer in the field and in the process of
finishing your college to give you a chance to show them how good you
are for the position, then by all means come to a Canadian college. And
even then, I don't guarantee you that you will get hire.
By the other hand, if you still choose to come to a Canadian college,
you must be really careful as to which college you choose to study
because there are some colleges which no one will hire you if you are
coming out of that certain college.
I am just trying to prevent you from wasting your time and money in one
of those colleges here ok. But if by the other hand, what you want is
the experience of seen the country, just take a trip.
Good luck to you, and my best regards as well.
Cristina. Alberta, Canada.
April 9- 2008
Greetings, we are a couple of Mexicans who
want to improve our quality of life and want to move to Canada to
work. An agency offers us jobs as kitchen helpers or cleaners, but
we are professional, my wife is a teacher and I'm an accountant, told us
that after three months we can find a better job. Our question is, how
true is that we can easily find a work in Canada? Is it true that Canada can
offer a better quality of life for the two of us -like they said?
Octavio D. Chihuahua, Mexico
Abril 10- 2008
I enjoy your forum and I glad that you spend time on it. I immigrated to
Alberta, Canada nearly thirty years ago. Fortunately I get married with
a Canadian and I’m very proud to be a Canadian citizen. I came here to
be successful. I worked and I did the jobs that no one else would do. 1
in 5 people in Canada has not born here. This is a country of immigrants.
I am helping out two families who are not related to me in any way and
have now immigrated to Alberta and I'm helping them become assets to
their and my country. I spent four and five years respectively trying to
explain to them that they would do the labour who’s no Canadians would
do. We raise all the idle welfare recipients we need already. We want
people who can work and will work. I have a university degree. But that
did not stop us from doing years of hard physical labour. Grow up or
stay in your country if you are too lazy to do physical work. If you
want to work and be an asset to my country, you will be welcomed.
Quentin S. Alberta, Canadá.
April 11- 2008
Through a television's program in Miami, I'd report about an agency that
is receiving immigrants in Winnipeg, Canada, to be part of or for
contribution to the community, I am interested in the information,
because I have some social projects in my area as Visual artist and I
would like to develop or share with groups of young and children and
would be a huge cultural enrichment.
I wait your valuable reply. With feelings of
appreciation,
Marianne S. Miami, USA.
April 12- 2008
Octavio of Mexico,
Both Accounting and Teaching are licensed professions in Canada. In
Canada, many professions are protected, the reason behind this is to
protect the public but the reality is to protect their members against
foreign or cheaper local competition. In order to be an Accountant in
Canada, you need to pass the CGA, CMA or CA examinations and have many
years of experience under the supervision of a licensed accountant.
Teachers need a provincial license that normally requires a bachelor's
degree in education that normally takes two years in some provinces and
3 years in Quebec. You might look for book keeping jobs but even those
will require Canadian experience or a local degree in accounting. Canada
needs cheap labor and not professionals, the same situation you have in
Mexico so I don't think you are coming to a better place but similar
conditions with colder weather. My brother in law brings labor from
Mexico to work in Construction and restaurants but he never brings
professionals and tells them up front that they will work as labor
because that is reality. Most of them come for six months or less, once
they find out that they cannot save money they go back.
You can always try to go back to professional work but this means go
back to University and fight for those scarce professionals jobs in
Canada after graduation. Many Mexicans are happy in Canada mainly
because the free of pollution environment and the social benefits so
many feel happy in spite of the not so strong economy.
Raul. Montreal, Canada.
April 25- 2008
Hello,
On your Northern Canada
page at
http://www.canadaimmigrants.com/Northern-Canada.asp,
please add the link
www.immigration.gov.yk.ca
to Immigrant Information for Yukon.
Thanks in advance,
Eric H.
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March 5- 2008
I am a Canadian citizen who moved to Los Angeles in 2001 at 49 years
of age. When I graduated from technical school, even as a native born
Canadian I was frustrated to find a job as I lacked formal experience.
So what I had to do was take my extensive personal experience in
electronics (I fixed a lot of TV sets when in college) and I sort of
“improved” my previous experience. Then I got a job. Unfortunately it is
impossible to do this if you are new in the country. But remember that
Canadian employers are just about as hard on Canadian young people as
they are on immigrants.
I recommend NOT immigrating anywhere unless you have a job offer
already. Even if it means flying to Canada for an interview that may not
be successful. The US accepts very, very few immigrants without a job
offer already. I had one before I moved to California. Otherwise the US
government would not have let me in. I arranged three interviews from
job postings on monster.com and flew here at my own expense at the end
of 2000 for them. And I flew back to Canada unsure of anything as I did
not get the offer until a week after my return. To line up a job in
another country you have to take a gamble your interview trip will work
out. If you cannot take this sort of risk, immigrating blind is an even
greater risk.
As for opportunity, you have to carefully research the field. I am an
electronics engineer and I never had good work in that field in Canada.
Canada has lots of mechanical and civil engineering jobs but little in
electronics. I had to move to Los Angeles and now I work on state of the
art products that are used all around the world.
If you have a job lined up when you move to Canada, Canada can be a
great place to live. Working Canadians do not suffer any lack for
material goods. However, getting a job in Canada is difficult, even for
the locals. Canadian employers are under great pressure from US
competition and they cannot take the time to train workers. They need
you to ”hit the ground running”. That is, to be productive from the
first day. If they are not 100% sure of this, they will not take a
chance on you as Canadian employers also tend to be slower to let people
go than a US employer.
As for services that teach you how to write a resume are taught by
people that have never written one themselves. I find that the resume
form they tell you to write is next to useless. I know as I have hired
lots of people over the years. The one or two page form does not say
enough. I do at least 4 pages and my long form resume is two documents,
a six page chronological resume and a separate six pages skills
document. This form is not for everyone but basically I find the resume
writing classes to be of marginal good. Only take one if it is cheap or
free.
As for the Canadian Employment Centres or whatever they call themselves,
these have proven useless to me. And when I have hired people, the
candidates they send to me are generally rejected before the interview
as it is assumed that only the lowest quality candidates come from them.
I know of no one who has ever gotten a skilled job from them. In Canada
I have generally gotten jobs from networking. Only once from a newspaper
ad and once through a private agency. And do not deal with a private
agency that charges you money. The legitimate ones are paid by the
employer. The problem with networking is that you have to be in Canada
already and have established yourself as a quality, experienced person
in your field.
Just remember that Canada has experienced many waves of immigration. The
historical trend is that the first generation of immigration from any
group, the new immigrant ends up in menial work. No matter where they
are from or what they did in the old country. They end up at the bottom
of the totem pole. Their children do better but still not as good as
people from families in Canada for many generations. Not until the third
generation do they do as well as long term Canadians. It appears that
people in this forum are expecting to do as well as multi-generation
Canadian from the beginning. This is not how things have worked in the
past and the number of times it happens now is very rare. No matter what
the government or an immigration consultant tells you that’s the
reality. It is not discrimination against you. The Italians went through
it when I was a child and later the Portuguese. Before that the
Ukrainians, the Germans, the Chinese and all the rest.
Dan. USA.
March 6- 2008
Wow! Many of the posted messages I read in the forum, shocked me! My
husband and I are considering to leave Italy for Canada; as you maybe
know the great stregth of Euro (the European Currency) is smashing
families (especially italian ones) down. Prices of goods are as high as
the sky and getting to the end of the month is becoming more and more
difficult. We spent our honeymoon in a wonderful journey coast-to-coast
thru Canada and the guide (who was, just to stress it, a Venezuelan guy)
kept on repeating that the great difference between Canada and the
United States is that Canada is a real melting pot but the population is
somehow proud of it and that discrimination is more an American issue.
Now I perceive real anger in your messages and I don't know what to
think... Don't even know if mentioning it to my husband. Can we consider
Canada a land of opportunities or is it better for us to remain here in
Italy and face the dramatic routine of a more and more difficult
financial reality? My husband doesn't speak a very good English, he's a
CNC grinder, while I deem I speak a very good English (I made of English
my strength in my job), but I am only an administrative employee and
the... worse thing is that we have two 21 months old twins! Not to
mention the age: Tom is 42, I am 41. Therefore: finding a good job and
not having problems in settling down is mandatory.... Please give me...
good news.
Isabella F. Rovereto, Italy.
March 7- 2008
Nothing Is Certain but Death And Taxes ( In Canada)
Meaning
A rather fatalistic and sardonic proverb. It draws on the actual
inevitability of death to highlight the difficulty in avoiding the
burden of taxes. In Canada this is especially true
Our Government would like you to think otherwise (8th generation
Canadian) But do not be fooled by their apparent reasonableness. They
will tell you Canada has a taxpayer bill of rights---not so They will
tell you a taxpayer has the right to contact the ombusdsman ---what
Ombudsman.
Think I am just a disgruntled Taxpayer ----check it out for yourself if
you do not then you get what you deserve Do not trust me and do not
trust the Canadian Government
Douglas L. Canada.
March 7- 2008
People need some kind of proof that your credentials are as good as the
Canadians............I don't have it. My guess is: let me show you and
if it's not good enough then fire me.
Richard. Canada.
March 8- 2008
In sum, after 3 years of my personal experience, I can say something
about the province where I live, Quebec. It has been a deception in
terms of basic services for any human being: health care.
In my country we have private health services; unfortunately, only rich
people can have fast access and excellent services. In Quebec this will
take ages. We weren't aware of it until we needed an specialist in
September, and we got one until January. When the problem or person
might not exist anymore. Another thing is the low performance of the
doctors, if you have the chance to see one. They never have certainty
about the problem you have. It's so bad that a newspaper in Montreal
published a note about 230 deaths occurred by medical negligence and
thousands of people affected permanently: blindness, handicapped...
As far as the professional area, after a year and a half I got a higher
employment level, but nothing similar to what I had in my country. It's
very important to be bilingual (English and French) because you need
them to get a better position. Besides, the role of the famous "Ordenes"
which requires from 2 to 6 years to be part of one. To apply for the
best jobs you have to be subscribed to one of them.
Another thing is the huge egoism of people, either Canadian-born or
immigrants who have been living here for years. After 3 years, we have
only one family as friends. Everybody else have approached us for their
own interest. This creates a lonely society with lots of depressed and
not very sane people. In winter time, this situation worsens, so the
suicide rates increase.
Moreover, the amount of taxes is excessive due to the huge amount of
retiring people who use lots of the government resources (health care
and salaries), and refugees and others (welfare), so all workers are
forced to support this system. At the end, it's some sort of
socialism/communism where poverty doesn't exist but at the expense of
the working people. It seems more like communism because the government
owns the most profitable businesses: electricity, transportation,
alcohol.
We better don't talk about the weather, until now we have 3 meters of
snow and waiting for more...
Good things: better public safety, order and cleanliness
At the end, I left my country to get foreign experience and improve my
language skills. After 3 years, I believe it's time to go back to my
country. After all, it's not too problematic as other countries (I don't
want to mention any in particular, but through other comment I have
learned about other realities in Latin America), and I can have a good
living standard as a professional; or maybe to look toward new horizons:
Australia.
Roberto P. Montreal, Canada.
March 9- 2008
I do have a bachelor degree from Canada in business administration but i
could not find a job even in Tim Hortons left me unemployed for 8
months.
Mohamed. Alberta.
March 9- 2008
Wow -
I have just read many postings about racism and unemployment in Canada.
I am an American citizen but now have right of permanent residency in
Canada. I am curious as to the experience on the part of US citizens in
Canada. I should also say that I am white male. I plan on working,
living and paying taxes in Canada.
Best,
PF. USA.
March 11- 2008
"Poles no longer need to go halfway around the globe
when they can fly to the UK and find a job that fits their skills..."
Canada Immigrant Job Issues.
March 12- 2008
I am an immigrant with many years experience in banking including
customer service, Personnel Banking and mortgages. I have a Bachelors
Degree in Management Studies and also the Canadian Securities Course. I
have 2 years working experience in Canada in a call centre environment.
I have been trying to get back into banking but have not been successful
in doing so.
Cherise. Canada.
March 13- 2008
My name is Kozmijn, I live in Toronto for 4 years now. I am originally
from Eastern Europe. I found this forum a while ago, trying to find
people concerned with the same problems as mine. I realized that I am
not the only one thinking like this. I thought that maybe I am crazy,
maybe i am paranoid and I am taking it wrong, maybe it's not so obvious
that we are discriminated, maybe it's just my mind. But sadly it's
true...This place is EXACTLY how we are perceiving it.
I was a little bit luckier than some other people, I have a decent job,
I am doing what I was trained in, but I can feel that "uninvited guest"
sensation all the time. By the way, that's to who used that, I think
Cristina, it's exactly the sentiment I had all the time, being
surrounded by canadians).
But, DO NEVER FORGET:
1. You are better than them.
2. You cannot be kneeled down.
3. You don't have to take any abuse because you have the same rights as
any other human being.
5. You are stronger than them because you had the guts to leave your
country for a foreign place.
6.You are stronger than them because you had the guts to leave your
friends for nobody.
7. Wherever you are from, your culture is richer and better and
stronger.
8. Wherever you are, you will find at least one person to think like you
and help you to pass the culture clash and the mental abuse that you get
as an immigrant.
Thank you all for sharing. God bless you all and your families. Look
forward, the future is bright for all of us.
Kozmijn. Toronto.
March 15- 2008
The Conservative minority government in Ottawa, Canada has a new bill on
immigration. This bill is a bill to make a selection on who comes into
Canada and who stays out, as well as the changes to the processing of
immigrant documents.
I want to make it known, that I am against this bill because this
immigration bill in the House of Commons is not addressing the issues
facing immigrants with regards to their credentials not being recognized
which has resulted in a major shortage within the professional sectors,
such as law, engineering, education, medical practice, and business.
The Bloc Quebecois and the NDP parties are voting against this bill.
Toronto NDP MP Olivia Chow wants this new immigration bill in Ottawa to
include bringing families together and not separating them.
Frankly, I am against this new immigration bill because this bill does
not solve the real problems that is plaguing our educated immigrants who
have been disenfranchised by the Canadian society. This bill does not
solve the problems of current immigrants who have their highest
educational degrees and at the same time are not able to hold
prestigious jobs to live that so-called "dream life."
There are so many talented immigrants who have a lot to offer, but their
lives are wasted because of the system that has failed them, and these
bureaucratic employers who are maintaining the "Jim Crow" practices in
the hiring of their new staff.
I may not have been an immigrant to Canada, but although I am educated
from Canadian universities, I as a black Canadian citizen find myself in
the same boat like several educated immigrants of colour in Canada. That
is no wonder why I left Canada to work overseas here in Korea. It seems
as of the Canadian government wants skilled tradesmen and not
professionals.
As I have told people before (Pardon me if I say this and I am not
anti-Semitic) but I refuse to waste my time making $10/hr working in a
white man's factory and risk getting crushed by a Jewish man's steel. If
I have gained international experience in my teaching profession here in
Korea or wherever else, and I go back to Canada to get a teaching
position, they will tell me the same stupid crap that they say to all
educated immigrants of colour, "you need Canadian experience." And what
will that Canadian experience be? Working low wage jobs and living below
the poverty line. I don't know if that will happen, but if that does
happen, then no problem, I can always leave Canada again and take my
work elsewhere. I got options in my life now that I never had before.
My big concern is that the Liberals who hold most seats in the
opposition are on the border line on this issue, and I can tell you this
for sure that if the majority of MP's in the House of Commons should
ever vote against this bill, the Conservative minority government will
be toppled.
I strongly urge everyone reading this email, that if you have any access
to meeting you local Liberal MP's in Canada, please urge them to vote
down this bill. But even if the Liberls gain a victory in the next
election, that does not mean that they will be the mice ruling a land of
mice. When it comes to the issue of immigration, it's the cats that rule
the land inhabited with mice, that's the way it is in Canada.
So I will strongly urge everyone to encourage all MP's across Canada to
vote down this bill and topple the Harper government. Besides, the
Harper government has no care for immigrants because they are just a
bunch of biased WASPS who think they are the masters of the universe.
Don't loose hope. You will have your share of justice and whatever hard
life you are living, you will come out shining like gold and be even
sharper than a knife.
Thank you.
Sheldon. Yongin, Korea.
March 17- 2008
I have read all that have been said by the different contributors.
I have only recently been issued with the immigrant visa with my family.
I was actually looking forward to a blissful sojourn in this beautiful
country. I am a little disillusioned now reading all this experiences.
Will somebody please tell me its not all stories of woes?
Peter. Lagos, Nigeria.
March 19- 2008
Responding to Employment issues.
I am an American living here 10 years now in Montreal. I live at poverty
level, most often receiving unemployment and a few short stays on the
welfare system. You probably ask why? So do I?
I am very capable of working, speak some French, not disabled in anyway.
Yet, I have yet had an offer for a permanent job. Even at a mere 10 -11
dollars per hour. I have been living in a nightmare here, and have often
thought of going back to the US, but now I cannot even afford to do
that.. sometimes I go without food for several days at a time because I
have barley enough to cover my rent, elect.. etc. And the Unemployment
agency hasn't even bothered to contact me to help me find work. If
anyone is reading this that could truly help me get employed for more
than 6 months at a time, please contact me. I have just about lost hope.
Elaine. Montreal.
March 24- 2008
While I am myself finding it hard to integrate and get a job here in
Canada, I find some of the accounts on this forum to be quite shocking!
I think for one moment it's worth bearing in mind that almost every
country in the world favours it's own nationals and there is not
necessarily anything wrong with that however, I am still getting very
frustrated with some of the blatant protectionist devices that are in
place here in BC. I read someone on this board, with an MA, had to drive
cabs and deliver pizzas. well my friend I can't even do that because my
license from the u.k is not accepted here in b.c(!!!) which is just an
absolutely atrocious law designed only to hamper labour from outside
coming in to compound this it's strange how many jobs require a BC
license, even when you would not think it to be necessary for the job.
and I do think it is frequently used as an excuse
I am also getting bored with the vast amount of union protectionism
here, even for quite menial jobs, and i also do not like the economic
restrictions either on trade of goods such as perfumes etc.. quite
recently two perfumes delivered to my wife were confiscated, not by
customs, but by canada post(?) because they were deemed as a fire
hazard!! this is out and out protectionism hidden under rules and
paperwork and it fully designed to protect the fragrance industry here
as an economist I am a great believer in a free(ish) market.. free of
bureaucracy and meddling and I am so far wholly disappointed with the
approach here. understandable perhaps with an economic giant like the
u.s on the doorstep, but still very very frustrating
For people on this board, I would suggest that you look at the bigger
picture and don't get disheartened by thinking the colour of your skin
or your accent is a barrier... most recently I've noticed there are
organizations (some government funded) in place to help skilled
immigrants find decent positions so just do your homework just remember
again, every country in the world favours it's own nationals. that is a
fact.
For me at this stage though I can honestly say that I'm giving Canada 3
years of my time. I am not an immigrant here. I am a person from
overseas who currently happens to be residing in BC, and that is all.
and if I do not get the job I deserve then I will be heading elsewhere,
probably the u.s, to get it.
Colin. Vancouver, BC
March 25- 2008
Kozmijin, My hearts is with you.
If I'm understanding correctly, what you are describing is a toxic
workplace. You have EVERY RIGHT to expect equality at any job. It's
law !
If you are being bullied and harassed, you need to start writing down
everything you can remember. Dates, times, who was present and names.
You are NOT paranoid and it's NOT your fault!! You are being abused
plain and simple.
First, you have the right to tell co-workers how you wish to be treated
( in a nice manner )A witness sure helps. If this doesn't stop the
abuse then you need to go to management and complain. ( if you have
someone at work you trust, take them along as a witness ) If you have a
union, file a grievance. Again, always keep a record.
If this doesn't work, you have EVERY RIGHT to go to the HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION and file a written complaint. Don't be afraid to stand up
for yourself. If you think you'll be out numbered, everyone who has
faced this and won felt the same way.
Keep your head up because you ARE better than those who try to make you
feel less. God Bless you!
My family came here in the 1600's yet I understand what you are
facing. I call it a "Huge Employment Problem".
Good Luck My Friend
Elizabeth. Nova Scotia.
March 28- 2008
I come from Ukraine, and I was foolish enough to believe all those
stories about 'civilized' countries etc,etc. I do not think that my
story would be very much different from those of many many others.
I was lured to this country. With all those promises and even with a
Guaranteed Job Offer. By the way, signed and confirmed by witnesses and
by 2(two)Governments -Provincial and Federal. I was a Provincial
Nominee. Before that I've been working with one of the local Winnipeg
companies, bringing Contracts to its owner from Ukraine, Russia and
other post-soviet countries. It has been OK for 14 years... I was simply
bringing extra income in cash to my so-called Partner...
As we have become Permanent Residents back in April 2006 we thought it
would be OK. But I was not paid after the first month, then the second
and I was forced to ask my employer about my salary. I have a family to
support.. But the answer was absolutely shocking. My 'employer' was in
financial difficulty, after buying a new office, and some other
'unexpected expenses'.
After my comments about the signed Job Offer he simply said: "Don't you
throw that at me.. You got A BIG PRIZE, YOU ARE CANADIAN NOW"!! If that
is all what is supposed to mean to be Canadian. I don't know what to
think..From that day all my problems started to multiply.. I asked my
immigration lawyer for an advice .. What I have heard shocked me even
more. It is NOT enforceable to make a private company to pay my
salary... And that is a CIVILIZED country?
I do have a good command of the English language, I have plenty of
International and business experience (Canadian including). I have a
Business Administration Certificate from a Canadian University. I had
been a Head of International Banking Department of the National Bank in
my country, but here I am 'overqualified'.
I wrote the letter to the Minister of Immigration telling about my
problems and I was given a casual job of writing a brochure for the
Department of Settlement. It was called 'How to start your small
business in Winnipeg.' Before I started I was promised by the Department
Head that this brochure would be considered as an 'entry point'. After I
finished and reminded her about that promise, she said she could not
remember saying that.
What I have discovered while preparing this brochure is: though how
numerous Government agencies and services are with millions of dollars
in budgets -NOT ONE is issuing a simple collateral at ANY of those
AGENCIES for newcomers like me. But they are all supposed to care about
new immigrants. So this is CARE and FACILITATION. Excuse me..
My wife is four times qualified in medicine, she was a lead radiologist
in one of the oldest and most reputable Ukrainian hospitals -she could
not get even volunteering at the hospitals here in Winnipeg.. She was
verbally abused in the Applied Linguistic Center.. And you are telling
me that you DO NOT HAVE DISCRIMINATION??
A very interesting choice of teachers, by the way, who are working at
that "Centre": former MTS, factory workers, retired accountants and
policemen, even a taxi driver!!!???At the same time myself, I hold a
Masters Degree in English as a Second Language as my first professional
education- I was NOT EVEN CONSIDERED to take the TEACHER's job.
This country is and will be in a huge trouble. If you here can afford
the luxury of dumping people with right skills and education for 'the
body I played football with in the college' this is not the sign of
CIVILIZATION. What shocks me the most -everyone is talking about history
and culture, heritage - hello, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE!!!
I even wrote another letter to the Premier of the Province, that was in
October last year. He, by the way, happens to be my MLA. They did not
find the time to answer me personally, but instead I got a letter from
Deputy Minister of Immigration in March 2008, this time, saying that it
is too bad that I can not still find a job, and they will be asking
colleagues from another Department to help me with locating the job...I
would better reserve my comments..
I am forced to think that I will be definitely looking for the
possibilities to get back to Ukraine as my wife and daughter have
already done. So much for CIVILIZED CANADA. What I can promise for sure
is: I will be lecturing people in Ukraine and other countries not to
come to this HYPOCRITICAL 'PARADISE'
Alexander. Winnipeg, Manitoba.
March 30- 2008
It frustrated me when I hear immigrants complain about how they don't
get treated fairly here. We treat them pretty well compared to how
Canadians would be treated if they were to immigrate to another country.
It's like Canada is available for anyone culture grab. I often here that
we don't have a Culture. We do have a culture. It's Freedom that we
value and we worked pretty hard at that. It's like we're discriminating
against Muslims by celebrating Christmas and not their Foreign holidays.
If we went to Amman, Jordan they would not be celebrating Christmas or
any of our Christian holidays. Most immigrants don't even know about our
History. If you are going to immigrate as much people as you plan on
immigrating then please have better policies. Our schools and our
streets are becoming a culture war. Provide education regarding
immigration so that Canadians don't feel like you are giving away
something that was worked so hard for. Provide Immigrants with
informatin regarding our laws and our culture so they don't think they
our Country will change once enough of them come up here. This Afro-Centric
school is rediculous because they are no longer the minority.
Cheryl P. Canada
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February 1- 2008
To Carlos,
I have been in Montreal for the last 15 years so I might be able to
give some experiences. If you have a job offer this is a good thing
since you won't have to deal with the problem of finding work that is
perhaps the most difficult challenge. On the other hand, the aerospace
industry is very dynamic so today you will have work tomorrow you might
not. However, this is everywhere you go so there is no way around that.
Discrimination? This is a very relative issue, I personally have felt
discrimination in few occasions. I married a French Canadian so that can
tell you something. More than discrimination, the reality is that you
will be coming into a very competitive environment and most people
protect themselves against outsiders by developing strong networks. In
few words, it is not that the French Canadians have a plan to block
immigrants in the work place but basically have their own networks and
they know that this is the only way to survive in business but the same
can be said about the Chinese, Indian, Italian, etc. In few words, you
will feel blocked mainly because you have no networks that might take
years to develop.
Many companies only hire French Canadians mainly because they know that
this is the only way the French community can defend themselves against
the massive immigration. They know that foreign people are more
qualified and willing to work for less so they basically block them to
avoid losing what they have. My only question is why they haven't
protested against the government for this massive competition that the
government brings. My guess is that they are successful at blocking so
they don't see us as a threat yet.
The city is really expensive (not so much compared to Toronto or
Vancouver) and taxes are high. In few words, you should be ready to live
as a middle class individual all your life with enough money just to
keep going pay check after pay check. No matter how much you make won't
make a difference since 50% of your salary goes to government.
Jobs are not so easy to get, Quebec is full of unions that block new
comers from the decent jobs and only the ones that no one wants to do
are available. In few words, you will spend lots of time trying to get
into a union in order to get a decent job but this might take years.
Any profession or business requires license, fees, taxes so in order to
get into anything you need to spend lots of money.
I hope this helps,
Raul. Montreal.
February 2- 2008
Hello everyone.
I have to say that I lived for 10 years in Montreal and Toronto, Can.
Discrimination is nothing to what I went through. I have A B.A. in
English From a University in Cuba, and 2 Certificates in Teaching ESL,
English as a Second Language from Canada. I speak perfect English and
French. In Montreal, I had to do multiple tests in French to teach
English, sounds funny.
I landed some part time jobs as an English teacher in Toronto, but the
school board is dominated by A Mafia, so teaching jobs are not for
immigrants. The Catholic School Board in Toronto, is dominated by
Polish, so if you are one, you are lucky. I moved to Montreal where I
had some part time jobs as an ESL teacher. There, discrimination is
worse, not matter that I speak English and French like a Native Speaker,
the Francophones in Quebec don't want any foreign teachers. I was the
only foreign teacher in 4 high schools that I taught. At lunch, teachers
sat at the lounge room; they ignored me as if I were an Alien. This was
sad for me, I am Cuban, we tend to be friendly and opened with people. I
now live in Miami, USA where I am finishing an M.A. in Teaching ESL at
Nova University. Is it worth the Cold and Snow and the Ethnic
discrimination, immigrants have to be victim of in Quecbec? Is it worthy
to live there? The reality if that USA harbors all kind of people.
Orestes. USA.
February 4- 2008
Carlos,
Raul gave you a nice realistic overview I believe.
He especially well explained the "discrimination" issue. I echo 100%
with him. Most immigrants feel discriminated by the Canadians, though
they don't want to realize the discrimination by other immigrant
communities, perhaps their own. Even whites sometimes get
discriminatory behaviour.
Why this happened? Because Canada is a guinipig of a social experiment.
Officially which is called multiculturalism. With ongoing immigrant
onslaught forever, true Canadian culture is being lost replaced by a
wired mixture 100 different cultures. This new comers put enormous
pressure on the job market that Govt. intentionally try to overlook. As
a result, hidden tension is mounting among different communities. All
communities want to favour only their own. So, though officially
discrimination is strictly prohibited in Canada, it presents in many
form in daily life that law can't do anything. If you are from a
minority community then you could be in problem regardless of all
qualifications. Quebecers particularly are traditionally very sensitive
to their language/culture and hence very protective. You won't be get
beaten in the street but always have to feel like an uninvited guest in
a party.
The story you told about your wife may be possible everywhere. In
Canada in the immigrant communities such stories are very common. I
listened many times somebody was hired then after few days fired to make
room for a certain person who is a relative to
"Mr. X". Though you'll be told something else as the reason. Key is,
nepotism (or networking in official word).
Like Raul said, I don't have any grudge against the Canadians. I don't
expect them to make room for me instead of their friends/relatives. I
only blame the deceitful Govt. policy who lure immigrants to migrate
where practically Canada can't support them, their skills.
Study both pros & cons then decide.
Good Luck
Shah. USA.
February 5- 2008
Hi Raul & Shah;
Thank you for your comments. I think Canada is like France. I understand
quite well when you said that I might feel like an uninvited guest in a
party. In France is exactly the same.
Regarding taxes, after Raul said that is the 50% of the gross salary I
got a little confused as a table saw states that taxes are from 30% to
40%, depending on the amount, but never more than 39% (in 2005).
http://www.montrealinternational.com/en/vivre/impots.aspx
This includes Provincial Tax and Federal Tax, maybe there are
other taxes not considered in this table. If you have the right
information on this I'll be grateful if you could provide me with it.
Carlos. France.
RE: For more information on taxation and other costs
in Montreal, please visit
http://www.canadaimmigrants.com/Montrealiving.asp
February 8- 2008
Carlos,
I don't know where that table came from but I wish that was the case.
This is a more realistic table coming from the software that I use to
calculate taxes.
http://www.ufile.ca/TaxNewsAndTips/TaxBracketsPop.htm
If you notice, with a typical engineering salary of 70K a year you will
be paying 50% taxes.
The reality is that some taxi drivers make the same money than engineers
since half of their income is not declared. On top, if you make little
money the government compensates you with extras so in a way many think
is better to work under the table. It is very common to see people on
welfare working for cash money.
On top of the 50% taxes, you have to pay tax for any benefit you from
the company such a dental insurance and don't forget employment
insurance. If you add the taxes you pay for your house, school taxes
(even if you have no kids) and GST. The reality is that you are paying
close to 60% of your income to the government. No wonder the government
wants you here, they are they only winners of immigration.
Raul. Montreal.
February 8- 2008
We moved here 13 years ago also with great expectations, had a great
standard of living in our native South Africa, just left because of the
violence. We are so disappointed in what we found in Canada. Nothing is
true of what you were told, I spent 2 years doing measily jobs until
finally someone gave me a chance in my job, my husband had to retrain in
his line of work. By then we has spent all the money we brought here,
every sent dwindled away with the high cost of living, with raising 3
young girls in Canada, we grew deeper into debt, and deeper and deeper.
Finally 3 yrs ago we could afford our own place but the debt keeps
creeping up on us, as we hardly make a proper living as you have no
savings at the end of the day.
I have a very clever young daughter that wanted to got to med school, we
do not have the money for University so what happens now, her very
clever brain goes to waste and she is working 3 jobs to make a living.
This is beyond ridiculous to me, everyone said South Africa was a third
world country but Canada is more a third world country to me. People
were treated there with respect, everyone yelled discrimination and
apartheid BUT I must say this is more evident in Canada to this day.
South Africa made a mistake giving it a name, but it is alive in Canada
discrimination and apartheid. Here it seems OK?? I can not understand
this concept.
Anyway many people can go back to their native countries is they are not
war torn or has uncontrollable violence, If I did have a choice I will
move back in a heartbeat but with the crime and violence I can not do
this. So what does this leave me I have to continue in this hellhole
named Canada till the day I day as a poor white man. Stay away from
Canada it is evil, very close to a hellish experience.
Dee B. Vancouver, Canada.
February 10- 2008
Hi,
I am a Canadian citizen, first generation of immigrants.
Everything you read on this site is true. They (Canadians) are not
racists, not at all. There is no RACE discrimination, not at all. There
is the worst discrimination on this planet! and it is against ALL the
immigrants. That glass ceiling some people talk about: it is as real as
this planet! They like our money though...
Here is the good thing: stay there until you get your citizenship, then
you can search for a job in the USA. See NAFTA - this treat allows you
to work in the USA.
Good luck to everyone!
Dolly. USA.
February 14- 2008
Hi everyone,
My name is Luis Torres and I live with my wife and an 8-year old son in
Montreal. I'm an Electrical Engineer, and I' working as a labourer at a
plastics plant. My salary is $9.00 -almost minimum wage. I got this job
through a friend, otherwise I would have been still unemployed. I feel
deceived because to qualify as an "independent skilled worker" they ask
for too many requirements, and when one arrives to this country, those
requirements have no value. I believe we should be compensated for the
time we have been unemployed or underemployed in Canada. Before I say
goodbye, I want to thank you for your concerns about this situation and
the fabulous informative work you are doing.
Best regards,
Luis. Montreal.
February 22- 2008
I'm a work permit holder, under the Low-skilled Pilot Program, just
landed here last Nov. 26, 2007 as a Food service Supervisor at pizza
placel. My current employer has breached the conditions stated in the
LMO, thus motivates me to look for another employer that will provide me
with a greener pasture and hopefully sponsor me to become a Permanent
Visa holder. My current working permit will expire, this year, Nov. 25.
Maria V. Calgary, Alberta.
February 24- 2008
Hello everyone:
This is in response to what Carlos from France was asking.
I will tell you what you may be risking the chance of going through
specially in Montreal.
When I was living in Ottawa, Ontario, which happens to be well dominated
by the French Canadian and just happens to be a bridge away from the
Quebec side, I went through endless discrimination when it came to try
to find an opportunity in a decent employment position.
At that time, I was fluent in English and about 75% on French as well,
adding that I am fluent in Spanish as well.
None of my completed education in Ottawa was ever good enough for any of
the office positions over there at all.
Eventually, I got fed up of the obvious discrimination over there on the
employment area, packed my things and moved out of the province for
good.
Discrimination for the most cases, will be your shadow anywhere you go
if you happen to have an ascent, don't have blue or green eyes, don't
have white skin, and don't have blond hair. No matter how good you are
at what you do.
I must tell you, there are some good Canadian people with good values
and an open mind out there who are trying to stop the racism issue. They
are amongst the Government and everywhere in Canada.
The problem is that they are too few, and they can not control or change
the whole country or the other people's narrow mentality.
Just to give you an idea as to how far certain employers will go with
their discrimination in the employment malpractice. In 2006, I was hired
as an office administrator. I ended up, upgrading their website, doing
the inventorying, and so many other responsibilities and duties that I
had been assigned in that company.
It seemed like I was doing an excellent task because everyone was
pleased with my accomplishments and duties completed.
That company dwells in the well educated people from all over the globe,
and I meant highly educated.
Some of those people were taking abuse from one of the company's
purchaser which happened to be a woman with a very disdainful attitude
towards immigrants.
That same woman started or at least, she tried to jolk me around like
she was doing to the others.
I tried to make a point to her that her behaviour was unacceptable, she
did not stop, so I had a talk with the managers about it, and guess what
happened??
3 weeks after my meeting with them, out of no where, they came to me and
told me that there was a big shortage of business and that they would
have to laid off a few people.
The problem was that they knew that I knew my rights as a citizen, they
knew that I could have gone further if the issue continued. So, instead
of them letting go a lazy unreliable, irresponsible employee, they let
go 3 good and excellent employees.
This people from that company are so crafty. They are making a big
profit out of this well educated people, and paying them so little, but
this well educated people would rather go through that than loose face
and go back home. Instead, they are so unhappy, frustrated, and even
depressed.
My advice to all of you out there, even if it will cost you your
current position, do not by no means accept that discriminatory
behaviour from any employer or co-workers, do not go home at night,
hide in your bedroom and cry about the bad discriminatory treatments.
And when you encounter a situation like that, remember to hold your head
high, and keep thinking that you have equal rights as just any other
white, blond Canadian because we all pay the same taxes, we all put up
with the country's conditions and we all in one scale or another,
contribute to this economy. Therefore, we all have the same rights as
Canadian Citizens.
By the way, if you feel that you are being discriminated against at some
place of work or where ever, do not make it a secret, let them know that
you are aware of what is going on. let them know that you have a voice.
If you keep it as shahh, it will not stop the problem, it will actually
encourage the perpetrators to keep doing it.
And the last but never the least, do not forget to keep a diary with
incidents and facts in the event that you need to take " the so called
legal action against discrimination"
My best regards to all of you.
Cristina. Edmonton, AB.
February 25- 2008
I sympathize with Luis, I got the same situation here in Vancouver. I
arrived here Last Nov. 25, 2007 as an independent skilled immigrant too,
a licensed architect back in the Philippines working for the city
government and when I arrived here first (my family came last January
14, 2008) I was enthusiastic to find a job in my own career but instead
ended up in an electronic wire production company that fabricates
different types of cables for 9.50CAD an hour. After about a month and
a half was offered 9.75CAD with benefits but then I got an offer with
another production factory producing fire dampers for 10.80 per hour
this is where I am working now. I am still searching for a job even for
apprentice CAD architectural works but at this time still have no luck.
I feel I was disillusioned because as an "independent skilled immigrant"
I was required to submit proof of my skills and yet here in Canada,
those documents are worth nothing and no one hires an immigrant outright
unless one is extremely lucky to find himself an employer who gives him
a job worthy of his skills. I think it is high time for government to
address these issues and continuously channel job opportunities to
immigrants that are qualified with experience immediately upon landing
so that we wont waste our time on jobs that even high school dropouts
can do.
John A. Vancouver, B.C.
February 26- 2008
Dear Cristina,
Your experiences and advices are very valuable, I appreciate them very
much and I will keep them in mind during my stay in Montreal. Thank you
very much.
I wish you all the best this 2008 for your self and family.
many regards
Carlos. France.
February 26- 2008
To John A.
I have been reading this site for well over a year now and being also a
Filipino with canadian immigration papers in process, I am interested in
your plight. To tell you, I think you are one of the more fortunate
contributors to this site (swerte ka na). Is it that hard to find new
job there? What about the Filipino community there, do they assist you
and your family?
I have read other people with a masteral degree in engineering and
doctors doing taxi cab driving and pizza delivery. Tell me, would you
want to go back to the Philippines. I am interested because I will be
going your way soon.
David. Philippines.
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January 1- 2008
Thanks for the good work you are doing. I did not intend to write but
after seeing the comment of a Canadian who is reprimanding immigrants
for accusing Canadians of being racist I decided that I need to write. I
realize that I cannot argue with such persons because they CANNOT relate
to racism and so they are full of ignorance. When foreigners go to my
native country they do not have to reach out to us, instead we reach out
to them. Here I have tried reaching out to Canadians and the response
has been distasteful to say the least.
Anyway, I came here with my family and luckily I was accepted in an
interview for a job before arrival and this was a result of the scarcity
of my skill worldwide. I turned down an offer I got in the US to come
here and it didn’t take a long while to realize the BIG mistake I made.
The cost of living here is through the roof and what is considered as
benefits (medical) here is far better in my home country. Not everyone
has the same experience because I am well educated and well paid. I had
to deal with the racism in the workplace in every form and when I talk
about it it’s as if it doesn’t exist. Anyway, I worked a few months and
quit the job to work from home for a US company and the salary is about
40% more and up to this day the Canadian company cannot get a
replacement for me. Today I work from home and just go to the mall when
needed and go back to my home. I tried saying hello to my neighbors a
few times and after the rejection I decided to isolate myself from the
“coldness” in all sense of the word. Canadians believe they are above
the world and I am talking from experience. It’s an insult for them when
I know more than them and they have insulted me. Today they cannot
replace me with anyone here after more two years. I have a family and if
it wasn’t for the inconvenience of my children I would be out of here
already. I am just waiting on a convenient time to correct my mistake. I
wish I had the time and space on this site to tell the full story.
The reason for me visiting this site resulted from a fellow country man
who decided to migrate here and I think I needed to tell him the facts.
This place is for born Canadians, and for the white ones and I know they
will say it’s not true but I pardon them because they do not know any
better.
Regards,
Varden. Alberta.
January 5- 2008
“Canada” is a brand name that is being sold to us. The country is
nothing more than a big monopoly board laid out in a tasteless way.
There is no culture, no real respect for people and virtually no jobs
for skilled people. No matter whether you are in a big city like
Toronto, ON or a small place like Kamloops. BC. Yes, there may be a few
job ads for jobs describing you, but there are a few hundred jobless
people applying to them. With your accent you do not stand a chance
unless the employer is cheap and you are willing to work for less.
Just like most of you, I came here with the idea of a better life and
the opportunity to explore a vast beautiful place that I do not want to
associate with the man-made horror movie called Canada. Nature is one
thing, the country enclosing this piece of land is a totally another.
A good part of the wealth in the US comes from the strong military
industry. Their game is rape, pillage and intimidation.
Canada on another hand is achieving its growth by herding people – just
like cattle. A cow in the fields cannot pay GST/PST, do a job for
$8/hour, become a slave to the 200 square meters on which it grazes for
up to 40/years, fly its relatives across the ocean or bring gold into
someone’s pockets from unexpected places around the GlobeJ
The general opinion of the older Canadian citizens is that a newcomer
should suffer because their own parents suffered when they came to
Canada many years ago. Well those people did not come to Canada under
“the skilled program” so they knew what to expect. To other Canadian
citizens, newcomers are a nuisance taking their jobs and bringing their
standard of life down, which is true.
Then think about your kids. They will speak English – a big advantage
(is it really??), but they will be so immersed and brainwashed by the
“culture” ($) that any contact with them after the age of 12 may be
impossible. I do not feel good seeing my kids become Canadians, not any
more!
The system is such that they will always recruit their 250,000/year, but
let them have the kind of people they really need, the laborers. The
real “good” laborers come with their own “skill set” like higher crime
rate, unreliability, addictions to drugs and alcohol that are normal for
anyone in their situation, only they will have less restraint to express
openly what they think and hopefully, eventually go after the rich f***s
who bought and brought them here.
We should all just kiss this place good bye
Jules, Kamloops, BC
January 6- 2008
Jules, Kamloops, BC,
I can't agree more with your word; "The general opinion of the older
Canadian citizens is that a newcomer should suffer because their own
parents suffered when they came to Canada many years ago. Well those
people did not come to Canada under "the skilled program" so they knew
what to expect."
I also felt that by my life. General Canadians are in a state of denial
by nature. I also had to hear same thing many times when I expressed my
job frustration even with Canadian University degree. You have to work
hard. Our great great grand parents came 200 years ago and they ploughed
the land.. worked in the harsh cold...
What a logic! With University degree in IT, Engineering, Accounting we
have to go for farming, fishing, mining.. in the remote North!
These "Hard Workers" never can realize how this unnecessary crazy
immigration is deteriorating their life. They still think that only
some immigrants are suffering so they are still in the safe heaven. How
ignorant people can be made by the Govt. based propaganda. StatCanada
recently reported that; for every 10% increase in the population from
immigration, wages in Canada are now reduced by 4% on average (with the
greatest impact to more skilled workers, such as workers with
post-graduate degrees whose wages are reduced by 7%). Clearly,
immigration is helping to reduce your salary.
Anyone with little sense should've realized that long time ago without
even report. How badly the employees are being treat everyday in
Canadian work force, how is their salary compared to the living. Why?
Because thanks to the immigration, employers never have to care for the
employees, don't like it, then go away, I've 100 waiting in the queue to
replace you even at lower salary. When I used to work in Toronto, I
listened many callers begging for a job, even without any salary for
gaining experience.
THANKS TO CIC CANADA. Long Live Human Rights, most free country and the
immigrant paradise on earth.
Shah. USA.
January 11- 2008
Being an internationally trained professional with 7+ yrs experience, I
find it hard to get an opportunity here, even if there are so much IT
jobs available out there. It's strange if Canada favors skilled
immigration if in the end people don't find their job. As for my case,
I'm even ready to do voluntary work to show my skills.
Nuvin. Canada.
January 17- 2008
I've been visiting your site for quite long time, and I can't believe
that there are still huge employment barriers in Canada for foreign
professionals. Moreover, government's employment programs are delivered
in such secretive and preferential way, that they really don't impact
positively the work situation among skilled immigrants. So, to those who
are tired of reading "the same story," should be ready to read more of
it, since hundreds of thousands of skilled immigrants are brought here
every year.
Monica A. Saskatoon.
January 21- 2008
After reading carefully this article, I couldn't avoid to agree with
what it states.
I've been here in Canada for 3 years already, my experience is wide in
the Administrative Automotive Industry. I attended 3 workshops about
Job Searching, which are mostly given by the non-profit organizations
(that's a good business here, by the way). I learned how to prepare my
cover letters and resume, I tried their recommendations many times and
in different ways....I started contacting the placement agencies,
getting sort of frustrated, since the kind of jobs I was called for were
for 2 days, 1 week, or even hours...nothing according to my experience.
I had some interviews, which I found interesting, because the common
question was Have you work in Canada before? or Oh! but you do not have
canadian experience...Then I wondered what the difference was...all you
have to get is a good English and know the Canadian standards in the
field you have expertise, other than that, I don't find the difference
between the Administration in Canada and the Administration in any other
office in another country...
At the workshops they suggest you to apply for entry level positions to
start, but I tried that and the answer was "she is overqualified for the
position" I couldn't stop laughing... But I guess those are the excuses
for not considering you for relevant positions.
I believe that they want the immigrants to perform those jobs that
Canadians are not likely doing, those underpaid and in weird places.
Meanwhile I am still trying, paying taxes as a normal citizen, living
with the money I brought from my country, paying services to the bank
for them to work with my money....
I completed this week my application number 75....and I will keep trying
until I find something I deserve!
Mireya. Ontario.
January 23- 2008
Hi, my name is Warner De Ruiter and my wife is Rita De Ruiter, we
moved from Holland with 2 children, to Canada in 1989 for a better
future for the family.
We have worked and invested since day one and owned businesses, we had 2
franchises, 1 in Holland and 1 in Canada, before we entered into the
franchise, named Medichair, in 2001, trouble started since we took over
the business, Business experience and documents are indeed not valued by
Canadians but also the law is not on the side of the Immigrants.
When we wanted to go to Canada, we had to possess $300,000.00. This
Franchise is the reason we lost a $ 1,000,000.00 business and went
through bankruptcy. They refused to do a Discovery and at the last
moment we found out that we could do a Cross Examination on an
Affidavit; this is very limited. The Franchisor does not want to go to
court, because several mistakes on there side leaded up to our business
going down. Behind our back they hired our most important employee, the
sales rep for rehab; there is a big shortage in this field and knowingly
they played a dirty game and made him an offer he could not refuse! This
employee is now CEO of the company, because they sold the whole
Franchise (about 60 stores) and enjoying the Millions of dollars and
that is fine, only 1 of it was ours and we are fighting for a couple
years to get it back.
We lost everything, even we have papers that proves that they should
have never attacked us in the first place; faxing all financial
institutes and closing and freezing all personal and business accounts
(our kids included) and the same with all credit cards. We asked for
advice and help in central Alberta ( Calgary / Edmonton ) but if you
don't have money no one will help; because it was a business, Legal help
will not do anything. Till now we had 4 lawyers who made there mistakes
and they have NO RESPONSIBILITY. There is no lawyer who goes after an
other one! Believe me, we tried. To find justice, we have to pay $
50,000.00. Isn't that nice? First, they take everything away and then
they get scared, because we were doing good with doing all paperwork
ourselves. We had a couple victories and that really scared them. The
only thing we don't have anymore is money and that is the road they take
now. The last Judge only dealt with security for cost and granted the
sum they asked for. This way it really looks like that justice has to be
bought? We paid thousands of dollars in Legal fees, till there is
nothing left and nobody cares about justice. We are very well organized
and have shelves of binders and we are stuck! Is there any justice for
Immigrants?
Warner. Alberta.
January 24- 2008
Hi all,
First I would like to say that I am not Canadian nor living in Canada
yet, therefore, I do not have Canadian Experience, and to make it worse
English is not my language.
Ok, enough the evidence that skilled immigrants are not prefered in
hiring selection process unless they are the only one can be found in
whole Canada that can do the job. So what is the reason employers
reluctant to hire skilled migrants, Ok, we all know that having No
Canadian Experience is almost a funny joke, which that imply only
Canadian got such Experience.
Sorry for my ignorance, however, I have naive questions to ask Are there
any tangible reason, Any Canadians employer would like to share? What is
the real reason? for example,
- is hiring migrants is act of treason?
- Or is this because simply the volume of immigrants is to high, supply
far exceed the demand.
- will company be tax higher for each migrants hired? - will the company
going to face difficulty in selling their products if found hiring to
many migrants?
- or there is statistic reported most migrants are not loyal to the
employer they will switch job after gain experience and been trough
expensive job training?
- or perhaps the unemployment rate in Canada is higher than reported and
migrants are left out from statistic.
Whatever the reason, it surely very important because have to abandon
such important resource pool of skilled migrants that most probably
going to help the company growth is very bold and unorthodox strategy?
I am very confuse, or perhaps after reading to much of such negative
experience, it blind me from the fact that there is large number of
skilled migrants that found good job with decent pay which we never
heard from them due to no complain.
Any employers would like to say anything?
Synard. Singapore.
January 25- 2008
I realize many people fell unhappy with their situation living in
Canada. What made you decide to leave your home country to go to
Canada?, did people tell you you´re gonna make 10 times your salary?. I
think many people don't understand the real meaning to leave what you
have and try something new. The factors are many, from discrimination,
weather, foodtype, language, you name it. Somebody who has an open mind
has to evaluate the further challenges. And one suggestion: Don't cry
for everyting! that kind of attitude doesn't help, not even in your home
country.
I am from a very poor South American country, I believe Canada is 100
years beyond my country in many areas. Our socialist president is trying
to change the constitution in order to give more money to the poor. This
means if you have 2 lands one will be taken by the government. The same
if you have 2 cars, 2 houses. This may happen or not. This is not
happening in Canada, I am self employed, I make good money as a middle
class. If I had an employer I would be making less money, I believe this
is going to happen if I move to Canada. I like challenges and my family
too. If you fell just like me go ahead!, you may not be rich but if you
think you're gonna be poor, stay in you home country and fight for
better education, better health system, better security, better
politicians, better roads, etc.. It will take decades, I presume. good
luck!
Danny. South America.
January 26- 2008
Synard. Singapore,
I'm also not a Canadian employer but can tell you something. The main
reason is what you mention:
"Or is this because simply the volume of immigrants is to high, supply
far exceed the demand."
There must not be any doubt about it. Not a single country can offer
endless opportunities as Canada pretends and bring 60/70 thousands of
educated professional immigrants every year for nothing.
Where there are 5 jobs and 100 applicants what'll happen? No matter
what your qualifications are 95 have to be rejected. Jobs are awarded
to the ones with local credentials and personal recommendations. In
fact, Canada has surplus of it's own products and that's why every year
many Canadians have to leave their country for jobs. Currently an
estimated 10% Canadian leave overseas, excluding the PRs. So imagine
what's happening with the immigrants with foreign degree. Real Canadian
unemployment rate is many times higher than what the Govt. publishes.
Canadian employers are also very rigid, they don't want to take any
chance with the foreigners, they actually don't need to as they always
have locals available. They don't want to take They have to give some
excuse, and that is "No Canadian Experience". If you want to apply for
the entry level jobs then you'll be 'Overqualified". What a nice game,
isn't it? They are in the upper side and enjoy a Roman emperor with the
abundant supply of cheap labor. Here lies the true facts behind the
immigration.
Shah. Florida.
January 26- 2008
Dear Alejandro B. Alberta from Nov 13th:
In response about you being treated poorly as a foreign temporary
worker, it is illegal. I found that the Alberta Federation of Labour
offers free help.
website:
http://www.afl.org/campaigns-issues/tempworker/tfwadvoc.cfm#help
From AFL website:
Are you a Temporary Worker in Canada?
You are protected by legal rights while in Canada.
Nicole S. Calgary. Canada.
January 27- 2008
Dear Warner, I feel very bad about your experience in Canada. Canadians
don't want the new immigrants to succeed and they will steal your ideas
if they work. You have done few wrong things, before applying for
bankruptcy you should have exhausted all credits in Canada and putting the
money in Belgium and then do the bankruptcy, the legal system protects
their own, what can I say, can you go back to Belgium and try to scam
some Canadians investors there? just to get the money back?
Similar thing has happened to me, but was the Canadian family who has
done that to me, and kids are involved and if I leave I will lost them
and I don't believe in the Canadian Legal system (not for me) either.
Anand. Victoria, B.C.
January 29- 2008
Hi all,
I have been reading this forum as an immigrant in the near future as I
have a very good job offer in Montreal.
Stories told here makes me doubt about going to Montreal. Most of
testimonies here are quite negative and I am very sorry for those whom
have spent a very bad time in Canada. I wish you all that situation can
change into positive.
Anyway I would like to present my case and I'll be grateful if you could
give me any advise in order to be aware, even If I have a formal job
offer from a very important Canadian company in the aerospace industry.
Well I am a Mechanical Engineer born in Chile (Chilean Degree) and
worked on local aerospace industry for almost 5 years. Then I decided to
do some post-graduate studies in France. I got my Master of Science in
Aeronautical Engineering (MSc) degree and I had the chance to work on
the French aerospace industry during 2 years up to date.
Last September 2007 I applied for a job offer in engineering design for
an aerospace company in Montreal through its website. They contacted
myself ride away having next some interviews and they made an economical
proposal that fulfill my expectations.
Now they are working on my work permit which should be issued within the
next 2 months. I have to fill papers and they will represent myself in
front of Canadian immigration authorities.
Economical conditions are quite better than here and the company is
quite bigger and important than the one I am working for at this very
moment. Until here they have been quite serious and professional, I
couldn't expect other behaviour from this big company.
After reading some racists testimonies I have started to be worried.
Specially with my wife who is South American kind. Here in France we
have experimented some discrimination specially in the case of my wife,
she has not found a job in 4 years, and public services are quite
discriminatory with south American residents. We can deal with that
anyway, we support each other very well.
What we have not found here in France is:
1.- Police violence against immigrants. This is a situation that makes
me doubt going to Montreal after reading your comments.
2.- Discrimination at work. It is evident that I have an accent on my
French and English language and here in France I have had the chance to
be well evaluated due to my skills and quality on the work. Anyway I
already had interviews with Canadian representatives and they were
satisfied with my level, maybe thing can change with other Canadian
co-workers. What do you think.
I am afraid that things can change drastically when arriving to
Montreal. So if you could give your advise I'll be grateful.
I wish you all a Happy 2008, plenty of good things.
Carlos. France.
Carlos,
January 30- 2008
You already overcame the greatest barrier that you may face in Canada;
that is a good job. Other than that Canada is not a bad place. The
main question you should ask yourself; in case of job loss (hope not)
can you manage another one? In Canada fire is more prominent than hire,
especially for the immigrants. Can you tolerate Quebec cold? Police
discrimination is not entirely true, few incidents may happen but not
widespread or to concern about. Discrimination in the work place? I
would concern more about it. It may be a factor depending on your
co-workers or luck. If you don't know French then Quebec is a
nightmare for you, can't even find a menial job. Non-French speakers
are escaping out of there. Recently some stories of French speakers
also coming out. Otherwise Montreal is a cheap place, if you have a
settled job and French speaker then it is a good place to live.
Read these:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118680079272894989.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
"French in Quebec heading home: ´We are strangers here, and yet we had
been assured we would be warmly welcomed´"
Full Story:
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/295542
There was a regular contributor here, Raul from Chile I believe, staying
in Montreal and a mechanical Engineer. He could give you the best
advice though I don't see him here lately.
Good Luck,
Shah. Florida.
January 31- 2008
Hi Shah,
I appreciate very much your comments, thank you very much for your time.
I think I can deal with Quebec cold as I am from south of Chile, quite
cold too during worst winter season.
I have carefully read both articles you kindly have referenced here and
it is quite clear that there are several discrimination problems in
Canada, but I think there is no difference with France so French people
should not do too much noise about it. Here French people are
discriminating too in the same way and maybe worse. My wife has been
searching for a job as a bilingual secretary French/Spanish during 4
years. During interviews these French people asked her that they need
somebody who could speak Spanish like a Spanish citizen does, and that
they need somebody who knows the Spanish culture, all of this to do
secretary work. I think this is as much as ridicule when you hear about
having Canadian work experience as a newcomer. Spanish conquerors were
in America almost 400 years! They finally hired a French secretary that
speaks Spanish like a donkey. These kind of ridiculous arguments are
repetitive.
Sometimes when you go to buy some baguettes or to the bank you receive a
different attention depending on your accent or skin color, so French
citizen should start to eliminate discrimination in their own country. I
think my wife has something to say about it.
Thank you again Shah!!
And Raul if you’re still there I’ll be grateful if we could exchange
experiences.
Carlos. France.
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December 1- 2007
Dear Asif S. of India,
OH MAN, STAY WHERE YOU ARE.
I'm speaking as a second-generation Canadian of immigrant parents, so I
know the Canadian culture like the back of my hand. I'm still trying to
break the glass ceiling since I graduated from U of T. The excuses that
Canadians will throw at you to deny you work in your choice field will
be plentiful and ridiculous. I'm exactly what employers claim to want
from my generation: tech-savvy, multi-tasking, competent writing and
communication skills. They'll STILL guide me toward low-paying girly
jobs and cite lack of technical experience as the excuse. I don't even
HAVE experience in girly-type office jobs! Hah! See? You'll run into
this hypocrisy everyday, trust me.
Stay where you are, or at least until Canada reforms their immigration
problems. Canada needs immigrants. Immigrants will squander their
bargaining power if they come now. Wait it out and try again later.
Good luck to you.
Just glad to chip in with my two cents.
Tiffany L. Toronto, Ontario.
December 2- 2007
Asif,
That depends on many things. Your qualifications, field of expertise.
In general, all of your Indian/foreign credentials will be considered as
garbage. From there you have to start. It is up to you how you shape.
Canada is not like US that you land with a status and the your life will
take it's own course with endless of opportunities.
Unless you have any strong personal reference, to land in a office job
is next to impossible. Some people even with high qualifications feel
happy to continue menial jobs for the rest of their life. Most repent
for the entire life losing their life long savings chasing wild Canadian
goose and living in poverty.
If you really want to make it fruitful, then consider to go to any
higher degree/school in Canada which has co-op provision. Only that may
somewhere warrant you good job. Best utilization would be to move into
the USA with a Canadian degree and passport.
There are lots of fraud consultants around. Be aware of them. If they
claim to be the member of CSIC then you can find them here: http://www.csic- scci.ca/find/
Good Luck.
Shah. Florida.
December 3- 2007
I'm in university and I'm writing an essay on immigration. I found this
website an excellent, easy to maneuver website! Is there any way for me
to have the graphs as an appendix on my essay? I can't seem to copy or
print them. I will reference them correctly, of course.
Thanks.
Brittany. Quebec.
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December 4- 2007
It seems very hard to get an interview card for professional job without
any Canadian degree. Though I have many years experiences working with
international agencies and institutions including Canadian academic
institute.
Ashish. Canada.
December 5- 2007
Hello!
Thank goodness that I found your site before starting immigration
process! This forum completely changed the picture and definitely saved
me not only time and money but also health and nerves. Just another
chance to remind myself - better to be the first in a village than the
last in a city.
Best wishes and good luck to all of you!
Vadim, Russia
December 6- 2007
Dear Shah,
I have been reading this forum for 5 months now and I must say I'm
really discouraged to go to Canada. Still some part of me wants to push
through with our immigration. As I submit this comment our passports
are now being stamped with immigrant visa. It is very hard for me to
decide whether we should go and try our luck or just forget about it.
We have already invested some our savings in this Canadian dream. We are
currently living in UAE on resident visa. My husband has a good paying
job here, but I'm afraid once he get sacked we will be forced to go back
to our native country. He also has a pending application for H1-B in the
US as a telecom engineer.
His skills are not honored here as well, he is underrated but as long as
the pay is good that's alright with us. So I was thinking that maybe
since we have experienced to be second class citizens, we will cope
better in Canada? Before we leave this country we will recall his
application for H1-B here and we will try to continue the processing in
Canada. How long does it take to process H1-B in Canada?
Is it a wise decision to leave his current employment? We are hoping
he's competitive enough to land a job in a telecom industry in Canada.
Even if he is going to be under-rated, as long as it could make ends
meet.
Is there an accelerated BSN course in Vancouver?
I have learned a valuable lesson... you can never be treated equal with
locals. If you want to be a first class citizen, it can only happen in
your originating country.
Marie B. UAE.
December 8- 2007
Marie B. UAE,
"We are hoping he's competitive enough to land a job in a telecom
industry in Canada. Even if he is going to be under-rated, as long as it
could make ends meet."
My suggestion is; be optimistic, but realistic as well. Unless God help
you directly in some way, forget about landing a job according to his
skills, no matter how well qualified he is. Canada is not USA that you
only need skills to establish. Like your husband, there are many others
in the field, also lots of Canadians there as well. Who'll win? Only
the lucky ones who have both qualifications and strong personal
recommendations.
Isn't there any way? May be. If you can go for a local degree, course
which has warranted internship. Most of the jobs there are filled from
the internship. As immigrants, if you don't have any intern experience
then only local degree also may not help you anyway. Also, you have to
consider age factor too. Not many employers would prefer a middle age
man competing with a young energetic blood.
If both of you do some menial jobs that can provide you to barely
survive as Canadian living is very expensive. Worse part is, then your
life will be stuch there and the situation will only be deteriorated.
If I were you, then I would consider Australia way ahead of Canada.
Canada can be preferred only if you have the ultimate goal to move to
the USA. In Canada, immigrant unemployment rate is 37%, whereas
national average is 5.8%. This should give you a little idea about how
immigrant friendly Canada is and where you are heading. Also remember,
the rest who are employed aren't doing all professional jobs, most are
doing menial jobs with high qualifications. This 37% ones are those who
even couldn't find a menial surviving job. Also, social assistance
seekers aren't included here. In Australia, the immigrant unemployment
rate is 5.6%, just above the national average of 5.5%.
The best utilization of Canadian immigration is to use it as a step
stone for the USA. If you have a Canadian degree & citizenship then the
US door is widely open for you. Though you have to wait for some
years. With your husband qualifications he even may not need any more
degree to land a job there. As it looks like he already got one. It is
correct that as a foreigner you always will have some problems, extra
challenge. In mid east, you have good job with no permanent status, in
Canada most likely the opposite. In US, kind a in between. You will
have job, and temporary status, have to wait for some more years to have
the permanent residency. Other than that, in USA you won't find any
other major challenge as a foreigner.
Now H-1. Officially, there is not any conventional processing time for
the H-1 like immigration visa. Every year, 65000 H-1 visas are issued
(+20000 more for the US degree holders and some more). No. of
applicants always exceed the total applicants and hence they have to
select by lottery. H-1 period starts from October each year, and to get
that quota your application must be filed in the first week of April by
your employer or their attorney. Otherwise you won't get the quota for
that year. It doesn't matter whether you are in Canada, UAE, or even in
the USA for that as H-1 is not issued by the overseas embassies. It is
centrally issued by the US Homeland Security from the USA, NOT from any
US consulate overseas. Once you have the H-1 confirmation notice then
you have to go to your local US consulate to have the visa stamped in
your passport to enter into the USA. This is different. If you are
from certain US visa waived countries then you don't need to go to
consulate.
Good Luck.
Shah. USA.
December 9- 2007
I worked for the national health service for almost 7 years in UK,
completed residency in obstetrics and gynecology, been in active service
for the last 17 years. I used to be the head of the department as well.
Now I am a CANADIAN CITIZEN, and I am required to do Canadian medical
council after all these years. You would obviously appreciate that
scoring basic medical qualification will not help me as such since I
have been a surgeon all these years. Why don't do something to improve
my abilities in areas I need help such as laparoscopic surgery or
diagnostic medical sonography. As far surgery is concerned I got lot of
experience. I do not have problems with it for god sake give us a
chance. I was trained in England yet my residency is not acceptable it
is just beating about bush most unfair.
I think a more logical approach is needed to have positive thinking
about immig graduates, we do have good skills. As well I operate more
than a thousand people each year. Do not underestimate us.
Thank you.
Ayub. Canada.
December 10- 2007
Marie B. UAE
Shah pretty much summarized what you will face once in canada. You'll
have permanent residency there but to what avail? No "canadian
experience" means that NOBODY will hire your husband even at a lower
level of expertise. "foreign" credentials in the hands of "landed
immigrants" (the canadian name for residents.... dreadful name) are
rubbish even if they are from the UK, the US (believe me on this since I
experienced it first hand and met other US graduates here doing call
center work). So, education-wise, you'll go back to when you finished
high school which explains the crappy jobs most of us got there.
Canadian citizenship may open the gates to the US if you or your husband
can apply for jobs included in the NAFTA list; I know this from a
friend/colleague that used that citizenship to get into the US and look
for jobs here; it is not that easy depending on the field but you may
have success in the US as that colleague has had!
Otherwise, I'll say this: if it ain't broke, don't fix it! If you still
have a job in the UAE, stay there. If things go sour, I can guess that
you can survive a lot longer in your country of birth with whatever
savings you may have than in canada which is outrageously expensive!
I would recommend canada only for those whose lives are at serious risk;
for those seeking professional career paths, FORGET IT!
Gabriel. Atlanta.
December 11- 2007
Thanks Shah and Gabriel.
I guess we will just visit Canada and return here in UAE. We will just
wait for the processing of the H1-B of my husband here. He is already
approved by the USCIS and the US consul here in UAE is asking for a lot
of supporting documents regarding his employer in US. Asking for
confidential documents like how much the company will gain from my
husbands contract, etc.. His US based employer already submitted
financial reports and still they want more documents. That is why his
application is still pending. I was hoping if we re-apply it in Canada
the consulate there will be more of sound mind.
You have enlightened me. Our main focus now is to push his H1-B
application in US. All in all, Canada will just be a fallback for us.
We will use this visa to have a chance to live in US since most of my
relatives and friends are already citizens there.
Thanks again.
Marie B. UAE.
December 12- 2007
Marie B,
So you are stuck with the visa issue. It is very unfortunate that after
getting the H-1 approval you are facing this. Anyway, provide what ever
docs they ask and good luck.
As a professional, Canada should be your "plan B"; "what if". Yes, if
you apply from US consulates in Canada then your process would've been
easier. BUT now don't count on that too much. You already applied in
Dubai. So, until this is cleared you can't approach to another
consulate. They already have your record in their data base all over
the world and still this is "On Process".
It is highly recommended for all before making the final move land into
Canada and have a test drive for few months to explore how does it look
like. DO NOT sell your property, leave job, transfer all of your funds
until doing so.
Shah. Florida.
December 12- 2007
Being an internationally trained professional with 7+ yrs experience, I
find it hard to get an opportunity here, even if there are so much IT
jobs available out there. It's strange if Canada favors skilled
immigration if in the end people don't find their job. As for my case,
I'm even ready to do voluntary work to show my skills.
Nuvin. Canada.
December 13- 2007
Hello,
I would like to direct prospective immigrants' attention to two articles
in the media that shed some light on what canada is about
First, a former canadian primer minister acknowledging that he "made a
mistake" for accepting cash payments from a lobbyist, although he made
clear that "it was not illegal".
Apparently, canada and its inhabitants are so wealthy and so safe that
they not only carry large amounts of cash with them (we are talking
200,000-300,000 dollars here) but also make payments to strangers in
cash; since it is too cold it might be better to have the $$$ with you
rather than going to the bank don't you think?
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/285276
Second, the puzzling fact that collision rates are higher among those
taking rookie driver education programs.
Here we can see the higher canadian standards in action; the same
standards that they vigorously protect from immigrants' substandard
education. Thus, they prevent immigrants from getting right what
canadians have already managed to get it wrong
http://www.wheels.ca/article/47627
Happy holidays for all!
Gabriel. Atlanta, USA.
December 14- 2007
It is the first time that I happened to read the views of a large
number of immigrants like me, who are victims of the craze to come to
canada with the hope of having a better life on this web site. It is a
fact that we all are victims of a silent discrimination being practiced
in this country, particularly in the job market. The only viable
solution that I can think of is, to save some money to compensate
ourselves for all the losses that we have suffered during the last
couple of years, and then go back to our wonderful native lands where we
belong and have a peace of mind. However, if anyone thinks he can fight
the racial discrimination by obtaining university degrees and then
finding a better job, to me that will be an exercise in futility,
however, choice is totally an individual decision. I have seen even the
second and third generations suffering in this country.
If you think your own countries have corruption, let me tell you that it
exists here too, the only difference is that we all are living below the
poverty line so we do not even have any time to find that out for
ourselves.
Since it is my first time, I am impressed with my friends' views, and I
can imagine what kind of mental agony you all must be going through. I
have special sympathies for Ayub. What a waste of a talent and
professionalism! Always remember that there, in some corner of a room in
some God forsaken city in Canada, one like you is a victim of similar
circumstances and quietly shedding tears, unnoticed, unheard of. May God
Bless you all who came to this country like me, after selling everything
i.e., lock, stock, and barrel, and feel hurt to see the job situation,
and silent discrimination!
- Sarbjit S. Oshawa, Ontario.
December 15- 2007
A similar website has emerged, this time saying the same bad experience
with New Zealand. It is
www.expatexposed.com.
Lurker. New Zealand.
December 16- 2007
An interesting population profile released in http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/071204/d071204a.htm
Perhaps when more immigrants become decision and policy makers for the
country then the unfair, discriminatory situations of the present system
may be improved.
Dunlop. Winnipeg.
December 22- 2007
I'm very delightful to know there is such website that helps along
those immigrants. However, I also have one question to ask you if you
don't mind.
I'm a 4th year student in Assumption University, Thailand in the faculty
of B.B.A. majoring in Accounting who's going to graduate in March, and
I'm very interested in being an immigrant there. I've contacted
Pricewaterhousecooper and asked for any possibilities for individuals to
be accepted at new entry to work in Canada. It turned out that it's
quite difficult to hire one. They say that I at least must fit under
these three categories to be minimally qualified: Canadian
Citizens, Canadian Permanent Residents, 3. International students who
completed their degree at an approved Canadian university.
For me, I'm just a new graduate with no experience in working in Canada.
I've heard about working holiday so any suggestions from you would be
highly appreciated. I'm looking forward to receiving your reply since
I'm very interested in working there.
Thank you,
Nitiya. Thailand.
December 23- 2007
Hi,
I find this as a very useful website. So the conclusion is Canada is
not the best place for immigrants. How about Australia ? Do anyone
have knowledge, how is the job market over there? Is there any similar
website for immigrants ?
Please share your experience and knowledge about Australian's labour
market. I am Finance professional with 20 years of job experience with
large multinational company. What are my chances of finding a suitable
job there?
Regards.
Jasbeer.
December 29- 2007
Back last January my wife and I met this very charming and
persuasive gentleman from Canada representing his company (WillisBrazolot
& Co) and told of this mystical land of riches, happiness and a life you
can only dream of, so my wife and I sat there with a sense of
bewilderment and wonder of how could we see this wondrous land so far
from the tax grabbing lieing hoards of government henchmen and women
that want to rob you of your very life as a British Citizen, and signed
away with the excitement of a child opening a present and telling
ourselves that the promised land awaits and how our child grow up in the
fairy tale land of promised riches.
So off we came to this wondrous land for our interviews with these
champion of champion company's who tell of their great wealth and
triumphs over their rivals and the promise of the company credit card
,company phone and vehicle and how they will make you a king amongst
kings, so you pack all your belongings your hard earned savings and bid
a fond farewell to you family and friends and set off to the promised
land never to return to the bad memories of yesteryear in the old
country.
Now in the promised land you start to find that all is not what it
seemed and that all the shinny sparkle of the promise of wealth and
happiness are soon to be forgotten for you are now a thorn in the side
of your employer for asking, why sire is it that as a British subject
must I pay such vast amounts of money to come here and prove that all my
skills and trade from Britain are as much use as the mudflap on the
turtle over there, when as a Canadian all you need do is attend school
for 4 to 8 weeks and you will be as skilled as a British skilled
construction worker, and so the king of the company then abandons you to
the wilderness without any means of feeding or supporting your family,
and so you go back to the very charming gentleman who brought you here
with all the promises of wealth and untold riches and ask why is this
happening please help me.
So as the weeks draw on you tell yourself that all will be OK knowing
only to well that your life of riches ,wealth and happiness was nothing
but a dream that has now turned into a living nightmare from which you
do not seem to wake up from, and how you have to beg you landlord not to
throw you out because you cannot now afford to pay the rent, and why on
Christmas morning you are crying as you watch your child open presents
that other folk have bought because you had no money to by yourself,
because the bureaucrats would not let you go to work and earn the wages
needed to buy that present, and have your child tell you it will be
alright daddy we have each other that`s what matters not presents. This
is no fairy tale this is how I have had to spend my last 6 weeks here in
Canada and would not want anyone else go through what my family and i
have gone though. We have no money left and no means of getting back the
wonderful job and life I left behind in the UK and say to anyone
thinking of coming here PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, think longer and harder
than ever before, the grass is not always greener on the other side.
Yours truly,
Steve R. Ontario.
December 30- 2007
Rod hit the nail on the head.
This all comes down to elitist attempts of population reduction. Their
goal is to reduce us from the 6 or 7 billion we are today to half a
billion. So naturally, yes, they would see us as cattle.
Rod, the way they live with themselves is based on human psychology. It
is the same way a nazi concentration camp guard lived with himself.
They flood themselves with pleasures, vanities, narcissism, and hope
that it will drown out whatever little bit of conscience they were born
with.
This is why they will fail. For the same reason an alcoholic hits rock
bottom and crashes. You can't go on forever denying the truth. Their
kids see their parents for what they are for, and rebel.
Maybe their parents are racist, but the child naturally wants to explore
the beauty of other cultures.
The trick is to do what Tifanny recommends. Segregate. Form groups
like the Chinese do. Create local economies. This way you rely on one
another as a community and support each other, rather than giving your
business to multinational corporations like bestbuy or wal-mart (Who
treat their own employees very badly to say the lease).
If your computer is broken, seek out your local technician. If you need
to buy a new car, seek out your local salesman, etc... etc... We will
win this.
Moishe.
December 31- 2007
Australia is a far more better choice than Canada as a professional.
There you wouldn't hear much about doctors driving cab or Engineers
flipping burgers.
Read something that I wrote in Dec 8 post. In Australia the immigrant
unemployment/poverty rates are almost even with the national average; in
Canada those rates are many times higher than the locals. It should
tell you something. Unless you have a long term goal to use Canada as a
step stone for the USA then shouldn't think twice and apply for
Australia instead.
Shah. USA.
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